[Pythonmac-SIG] Re: How easy to just replace Panther's Python?
W.T. Bridgman
wtbridgman at radix.net
Wed Dec 17 22:34:16 EST 2003
Kind of late joining this thread but since no one voiced this issue.
I dislike this idea.
I predominantly develop for my own use (scientific research, in-house
tool development) and having platform changes can set me back months.
I last had VTK running with python wrappers under 10.1. When I
upgraded to 10.2, many components wouldn't build and I've only recently
got the entire system working again. I'm delaying upgrading to 10.3
due to this experience.
If I encounter some type of code bug and I develop a work-around, I at
least want to get some use out of the code on *my* time table - not
that determined by a vendor update. When I've completed the project at
hand and ready to update, then I can update knowing that I'll have to
revise some of my code components. I don't want to be in a situation
where I need to upgrade due to a OS security issue but must also take
some update that may break my existing tools.
As a result, I have traditionally ripped out Apple's installation and
installed Python as a framework from scratch.
My $0.02,
Tom
On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 07:27 PM, Paul Berkowitz wrote:
> On 12/10/03 3:33 PM, "Russell E. Owen" <rowen at cesmail.net> wrote:
>
>> I'd much rather upgrade Python than work around bugs that have been
>> fixed, especially since Python 2.3 has other known bugs.
>
> I find this a bit disturbing. New versions are always going to have
> some
> bugs that need fixing or working around. I think Python on the Mac
> will only
> be taken up in a big way when pretty well everyone agrees to work with
> what
> Apple supplies. You need to be be able to depend on users having the
> same
> Python as you, the developer. I think that's what Jack and others have
> been
> working towards, and have come much of the way. I keep waiting for the
> "all
> clear" to get more involved myself, but it never seems to come.
>
> Apple were pretty good about including Python 2.3 in OS 10.3 - even
> delaying
> the odd deadline or two, from what I've been told, or in any case
> coordinating them. Wouldn't the next step be to request Apple to
> include
> Python version updates in OS updates? So if Python 2.3.1 is ready for
> OS
> 10.3.2 beta testing, to please include it? Then you can just ask your
> users
> to update to OS 10.3.2 when it comes out.
>
> --
> Paul Berkowitz
>
>
>
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