[Pythonmac-SIG] Off Topic: X11 for OS X

[Bob Ippolito]

Yeah, I just started playing with it, it doesn't come with anything 
special other than the quartz_wm and window server.. however it does 
seem to have excellent OpenGL support!

As far as UI goes, you can cmd-tilde though windows, and there's a 
window list in the menubar.. but the window list isn't in the 
contextual menu of the X11 dock item.  X11 windows don't show up in the 
dock unless they're minimized.

It looks like it has FreeType in there with working support (it does 
include a couple ttf fonts); I can't confirm this, but I'm pretty sure 
it works.  It has all the standard XFree86 fonts as well.  Fonts are 
not antialiased, and you don't get your OS X fonts.

It does NOT have DPS support, though it has a couple of the 
applications sitting around in there.  I wonder if it's dirt from the 
NeXT days or if they plan on adding this feature?

It's kind of freaky if you run xeyes, it has a transparent background, 
with dropshadows on the eyes!  It uses the X11 window's visible to do 
drop shadows, not the rectangle.

Clipboard support works *perfectly* as far as I can tell (for text.. 
converts rich text on OS X to plain text for X11), but drag & drop 
doesn't work either way (nor should it, really).

xmag doesn't seem to work (shows up all black).. probably something to 
do with being rootless?
xman says no manual pages found

that's about all I could come up with.. without trying to compile 
anything.

On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 15:12 America/New_York, Larry Meyn wrote:

> This is off topic, but it may be of interest, there is now an Apple 
> version of X11 available at http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/