[Pythonmac-SIG] First stab at new MacPython website

Fri Jul 25 16:50:54 EDT 2003

Just another thought, looking at this re-design of Python.org....

http://www.pollenation.net/assets/public/index_rounded.html

It offers a happy compromise between having 'generic' sections, but 
having pointers to 'most wanted' documentation available from the front 
page. (i.e. About->For Win users, About->For *nix Users)

This is actually quite a nice site both in terms of look and feel, and 
accomodating users from different backgrounds. What do you guys think 
about using something like this?

Thanks,

Kevin

On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 03:17  PM, Kevin Ollivier wrote:

> I personally like the snake, he's kinda cute. :) And I think having a 
> standard icon for all ports would be a nice idea... Not to mention the 
> cartoonish look of the snake would probably make it easy to convert 
> into a pretty OS X style icon, that is if this is indeed open to 
> discussion. ;-)
>
> IMHO, the site design doesn't need to stick too much to the 
> download/documentation/community framework open source projects 
> usually take - most of that information simply leads people back to 
> pages on Python.org.  I think the site should really just focus on the 
> Mac "addons", maybe sections like the following: Mac Modules, 
> Switching to Mac(Python;), Getting GUI, FAQ. If I went to the 
> MacPython web site, I'd expect to find info on how to do things like 
> control iTunes, maybe Quicktime, write a pyObjC or wxPython app, or 
> maybe learn what PythonLauncher is all about and why I have two 
> Python's installed on my computer. =)
>
> Jack, everyone, I think I might want to play with this sometime over 
> the weekend and see about doing a mockup of what I'm talking about. Is 
> that OK?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 02:45  PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
>> I don't think that strange typography ( re: http://www.python.org/ ) 
>> would work, what would you suggest as an alternative?  What's wrong 
>> with the snake?  Windows has the snake, pygame has a snake :)
>>
>> -bob
>>
>> On Friday, Jul 25, 2003, at 17:37 America/New_York, Bugbee, Larry 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If there is any chance of a nice logo that does NOT have the snake, 
>>> I and a few others would appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Tx,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bob Ippolito [mailto:bob at redivi.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:34 PM
>>> To: Jack Jansen
>>> Cc: pythonmac-sig at python.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] First stab at new MacPython website
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, Jul 25, 2003, at 16:57 America/New_York, Jack Jansen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>> I've created a first stab of the new MacPython website. Please have 
>>>> a
>>>> look at it,
>>>> and send comments to the mailing list so we can discuss them. You 
>>>> can
>>>> find it at
>>>> <http://www.cwi.nl/~jack/newmacpython>.
>>>>
>>>> I think I have all the information from the old web page covered, 
>>>> and
>>>> all the new stuff
>>>> that is essential. But I would like comments on everything (and, 
>>>> don't
>>>> worry,
>>>> you'll be hard-pressed to hurt my ego, so fire away:-), including:
>>>>
>>>> - Organisation
>>>
>>> Is it necessary to have a side bar and a top bar?  There doesn't seem
>>> to be enough sections to justify this.  Also, the top bar is GIGANTIC
>>> due to the alignment with the really big and ugly icon.  It's time to
>>> get rid of the paperweight and get a sexy icon.  I'll talk to some of
>>> my friends and see if I can con one of them into making a new logo.  
>>> I
>>> don't think anyone understands what the 16 ton icon means (anymore?),
>>> and it obviously wasn't designed to be displayed at that size.
>>>
>>>> - graphic design, fonts, colors, etc
>>>
>>> The "Special topics" section should behave like the top navigation..
>>> meaning, if you're at a particular section, it should remain in the
>>> navigation but no longer as an anchor tag.
>>> In Safari 1.0, there does not appear to be a right margin on the 
>>> page.
>>> "MacPython is the port "... should probably be stated as "MacPython 
>>> is
>>> the official port..."
>>> Exits doesn't seem terribly useful, especially cause it's not
>>> consistently there and generally just points to python.org.. Also
>>> Community is terse enough to be part of Home, especially since the
>>> c.l.py newsgroup and mailing list is mentioned there where the
>>> Pythonmac-SIG is more likely to be relevant to a MacPython user.
>>>
>>>> - errors, dead links, links going to the wrong place
>>>
>>> http://python.sourceforge.net/ (Developers section)  is deprecated, 
>>> and
>>> should be http://www.python.org/dev/
>>>
>>> MacPython Documentation should point to http://www.python.org/doc/
>>> (Documentation) .. perhaps even more specific sections such as
>>> http://www.python.org/doc/current/mac/mac.html
>>>
>>>
>>>> - missing information
>>>
>>> Package Manager!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The latter is especially open for discussion. I was thinking of 
>>>> adding
>>>> at least a section
>>>> on GUI programming, but I'm open to sugestions on other things. 
>>>> Also,
>>>> should I add the MacPython Help files here too, so people can get a
>>>> quick idea?
>>>
>>> -bob
>>>
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