[Pythonmac-SIG] appscript terminology caching
eric.nieuwland at xs4all.nl
Wed Oct 20 08:05:21 CEST 2004
On 19-okt-04, at 21:29, Bob Ippolito wrote:
> On Oct 19, 2004, at 15:15, Eric Nieuwland wrote:
>> Well, why not optionally freeze the terminology in advance into a
>> specific area like .../site-packages/terminology. Let's call it a
>> cache to keep has happy.
>> Then, from your program you could use (extending has' example):
>> itunes = app('eppc://18.104.22.168/iTunes',
>> usingtermsfrom='iTunes.app', terminology=X)
>> where X is:
>> frozen to get Bob's preferred system
>> cached to get has' idea
>> application to always obtain the terminology from the current
>> application (possibly putting in the cache)
> But *why* put it there? Why not with your application? You need
> admin access to touch site-packages, and considering that multiple
> terminology-using applications and possibly multiple users would use
> the same cache area makes it rather problematic.
> I'm not at all convinced that it's worth doing. For the cases where
> you need the efficiency, you freeze it to a particular python module
> named whatever you want, wherever you need it to be. This has the
> added bonus of being discoverable by dependency walking (mostly
> packaging) utilities since you will be importing it explicitly.
> Otherwise, you look it up dynamically and take the speed hit. Why
> make it more complicated?
> The only situation I can come up with where you would really notice is
> if you had some throwaway python script that you were spawning a whole
> bunch of times to do something (a la shell script). The solution is
> to not do that. Make the script long-running and take a bunch of
> parameters on argv or from stdin, or make it a module and use it
> directly from the calling script (assuming its Python as well).
> Either way will be a whole heck of a lot faster because (a) you've
> make the terminology lookup constant time (b) you've made the python
> interpreter startup/shutdown constant time.
I really don't know what "the best" solution would be. In such cases I
try not to force myself into any direction and come up with a solution
that supports most variants.
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