Fw: [Pythonmac-SIG] Versions, Frameworks, Linking, PantherPythonFix

[Michael Hudson]

"Roger Binns" <rogerb at rogerbinns.com> writes:

>>> Taking a step back, am I the only person who thinks the Python situation
>>> on Mac is absolutely ridiculous, although 10.2 looks better than 10.3.
>> As Bob says, you obviously haven't used 10.2...
>  Correct.  I don't want to disparage the improvements that have been
>  made,
> but the situation as it stands right now on Mac still seems really
> bad to me.

You obviously have a different "really bad" threshold than me.

> Compare to Windows:
>
>  http://www.python.org/2.3.5/
>
> On Windows you just run the installer and all is fine.  You can
> run the installer for as many versions as you want.  Most extensions
> are distributed as installers as well.  You just run them, they
> give you a list of installed compatible versions and where they
> are installed.  You choose and all is fine.  Uninstall can be
> done from the Control Panel Add/Remove Programs menu.

We are getting to this position on the mac.  We ain't there yet.  (Or
more precisely, Bob is getting use there.)

> The instructions on that page also cover all the other UNIXen
> which work fine with the tar/configure/make/make install and
> correctly deal with with having multiple concurrent versions.

Um, it seems to me that barring a small (but oh so annoying) bug in
2.3.0, this isn't different on OS X.  Sadly, we can't go back in time
and sort this out, all we can do is "do better next time", and we
(think we) have.

> Mac isn't even mentioned on that page.  The tar/configure/make/make
> install stuff does work.  (I can't tell if it enables frameworks
> by default or not

It doesn't.

> - wxPython requires a framework build, so I enabled it).
>
> But when installing extensions such as wxPython that come with
> a graphical installer (yay!), they don't list the known Pythons
> on the system.

Hmm.  This is something that hadn't occurred to me.  I guess the
unusuality of OS X is somewhat that you might have two copies of 2.3
installed...

Cheers,
mwh

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