[Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

Charles Hartman charles.hartman at conncoll.edu
Fri Feb 10 14:49:05 CET 2006

It seems to me (as *much* closer to a newbie than a developer) that  
simply recommending the download & install of Python 2.4.x not only  
wouldn't put a major obstacle in the way of beginners, but wouldn't  
seem to, either. That one step isn't a problem -- if we can get to  
the point where that's the only step (because no Fix or Compat is  
needed, the PATH gets tweaked, etc).


On Feb 10, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Louis Pecora wrote:

> Bob Ippolito wrote:
>> The largest issue is that you can't legally redistribute the Python
>> interpreter that ships with Mac OS X, so you can't create standalone
>> applications.  Even if you could, it wouldn't have a chance of being
>> backwards compatible with the way that Apple builds things.
> This seems to be where this argument goes:  the user/newbies vs. the
> developers.   Can we break this knot?  Sure a developer wants a system
> that guarantees no barriers for anyone trying to use his product.   
> Sure
> a newbie or just a user wants no barriers to just get up and running.
> If each side insists on having its way, this will go nowhere.   I
> thought it had a chance for a few days and now I'm having my doubts.
> I sense developers here want everyone to get the latest and greatest
> python so then their product is a no-brainer to use (sorry about the
> slang).  Of course, users/newbies want to just jump in there and go
> without pain.  I'm a user so perhaps that explains why I am more on  
> the
> user side.  You shouldn't be forcing everyone to adopt a python system
> that then suits your marketing model.
> Why a compromise can't be reached here is beyond me.  Does this happen
> with Perl?  Ruby?
> I'm not sure how helpful that was, but I need to vent.
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Lou Pecora
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> Naval Research Lab
> Washington, DC  20375
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