[Pythonmac-SIG] New Page, first proposal

[Ronald Oussoren]

On 9-feb-2006, at 2:40, Bob Ippolito wrote:

>
> On Feb 8, 2006, at 2:42 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:
>
>> I'm afraid that you're right about this, and I think it's the biggest
>> obstacle to the project of getting (non-Unix) Mac users interested in
>> Python when they go looking for a language, or just looking to get
>> started on programming.
>>
>> Does the old PythonIDE come with OSX's Python?
>
> No, it has never shipped with Mac OS X.
>
> The old Python IDE is dead, forget it ever existed.  It hasn't been
> touched in god knows how many years and a dependency it has is "non-
> free" and not available for i386.
>
>> I really feel -- do people really think I'm wrong about this? -- that
>> even PythonIDE, limited as it is, is a better beginners'
>> recommendation than the Terminal.
>
> It's not even an option, we'd need to pick something else.  IDLE is
> the only suitable library candidate for a beginners IDE, but only on
> Mac OS X 10.4 and later (since 10.3 did not ship with Tcl/Tk).

Tcl/Tk is avaible as a seperate download for 10.3
>
> Technically IDLE should even work on a stock Mac OS X 10.4 system if
> the user went to the scary terminal and typed:
>
> 	pythonw -c "import idlelib.idle"

Seems like nice little project for someone that does want to push  
Apple's python,
build a (tiny) download that contains 'IDLE.app'.  And presto, you have
a simple IDE for someone that doesn't want to use the terminal ;-)

Ronald
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