[Pythonmac-SIG] Python development on OSX

[Charles Hartman]

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Bill Janssen <janssen at parc.com> wrote:

> Charles Hartman <cohar at conncoll.edu> wrote:
>
> > it would seem to be short-sighted for anyone interested in Python on
> > the Mac not to support py2app as fully as possible.
>
> You calling me short-sighted, Charles?
>
> That's OK -- it's true, you know; I've been wearing thick glasses since
> I was a kid :-).  But I don't know that it has much to do with py2app.
>

Oh, you should see my glasses.  Are you telling me py2app didn't cause
this???


> I think py2app is great, and I believe I even used it, once -- wanted to
> make a Preference Pane with Python, and couldn't figure out how to do it
> otherwise.
>
> But in general I've not needed it -- I just use Xcode and the system
> Python, and there's no need to bundle another Python with that approach.
> I should probably figure out how to use py2app with that approach,
> though; it might be more bullet-proof.
>
> Bill
>

My point was just that a lot of us can't use Python the way or you, or
aren't willing or likely to.  We're just application programmers, not
systems programmers.  And we also can't afford to code only for Mac.  I
write educational programs, and a lot of my (benighted) students persist in
using Windows.

And then, my more argumentative point was that Python needs us: we're the
ones who bring the wider attention and the critical mass.  Maybe I don't
understand how the support of programming languages works, but I know there
are beautiful languages out there orbiting lonely stars because people
admired them only from afar.

I'd be interested to know, if anyone knows: why DID Apple start including
Python?

Charles
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