[Pythonmac-SIG] Kivy python GUI

[Michael O'Donnell]

Saw a link to Kivy, which seems to be a newish GUI for
python, works on most platforms, including iOS and Android.

Anyone played around with it?

Seems to offer a basic canvas with draw ops. On a quick
look, couldn't see any more complex widgets, except
for buttons, but they may be there (the documentation
is not that straight forward).

Mick (looking for a cross-platform pythin GUI)


On 10 July 2013 11:35, Paul Wiseman <poalman at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9 July 2013 17:12, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <chris.barker at noaa.gov>
> wrote:
>>
>> oops, sent only to Paul the first time....
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <chris.barker at noaa.gov>
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> > Qt looks great from my first impressions but one thing I'm not too sure
>> > about is how native it can go, I know the controls are native and will
>> > use
>> > carbon/cocoa underneath on mac for example.
>>
>> Personally I've used wxPython for years -- it would be a good option
>> as well (and does use Cocoa under the hood in recent versions, so
>> injecting some custom Ma-only code in there is quite doable.
>>
>> A lot of folks like QT a lot, it may be a good way to go -- honestly,
>> I've stuck with wx mostly due to inertia -- never really considering
>> alternatives.
>>
>
> I've used wxpython a lot in the past, and maintain some code that uses it
> and I do like it, there are a couple of bits that have put me off though.
> There doesn't seem to be an obvious way to implement an MVC type pattern
> with it. I haven't used Qt much at all yet but QML looks extremely
> interesting and pretty powerful. This signal and slots in qt reminds me a
> lot of the outlet actions in the iOS world as well which helps a lot at
> keeping everything de-coupled. I've found an awful lot of bugs with wx over
> the time I've been using it as well which has put me off somewhat, but
> that's probably true for a lot of systems/frameworks of that size that you
> get very familiar with and use a lot.
>
>>
>> However, there is a key design difference -- wx wraps the native
>> widgets, and QT, for the most part, re-implements them with low-level
>> primitives. So while a QT Window is probably a Cocoa Window, the
>> individual buttons, etc are not native. I don't know to what extent
>> you can override this, but I do know that most of the QT apps I've
>> seen on the Mac are not very native: not even using the native file
>> open dialogs and the like. I'd be shocked if you couldn't do better
>> with some care, but QT does not appear to do a very good job of native
>> out of the box.
>
>
> Do you know any Qt apps for mac? It would be quite useful to take a look at
> a few to help weigh up my options.
>
>>
>>
>> wxPython requires a bit of care to look and feel truly native as well,
>> but it gets closer by default.
>>
>> IIUC, PySide is essentially an alternative to PyQT with a different
>> (more liberal) licence. It is certainly under active development. For
>> example, Enthought, Inc is relying on it for a lot of their stuff, and
>> has hired Robin Dunn (ironically the wxPython founder/developer) to
>> work on it. There was a sprint at last weeks' SciPy conference as
>> well.
>>
>> If you do want to cal native code, PYObjC is likely the easiest way,
>> but if that doesn't look right to you, Cython may be worth a shot --
>> it's a good way to call C and C++ APIs.
>>
>> HTH,
>>   -Chris
>>
>> --
>>
>> Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
>> Oceanographer
>>
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