Opinion poll: feedback URL upon import

Wed Apr 27 03:06:22 EDT 2016

-1, as others. The suggestions given so far are good: prominent message on
the website, and in the main docstring.

Juan.

From: 'Kevin Keraudren' via scikit-image <scikit-image at googlegroups.com>
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Date: 26 April 2016 at 9:49:15 PM
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Subject:  Re: Opinion poll: feedback URL upon import

Noisy output at import is bad. In addition to the suggestions previously
> made, what about also mentioning the feedback url in the main docstring of
> skimage, something like here:
> https://github.com/scikit-image/scikit-image/blob/master/skimage/__init__.py#L9
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Jaidev Deshpande <
> deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 3:40 PM, 'Robin Wilson' via scikit-image <
>> scikit-image at googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with the others: please don't do this!
>>>
>>> However, being more obvious about wanting feedback, via the website,
>>> mailing list, in conference presentations etc, is definitely a good idea.
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 26 April 2016 08:05:42 UTC+1, Christoph wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Emma, as a scikit-image user, I would find it annoying.
>>>> Especially if it catches on and many other Python packages start doing
>>>> the same.
>>>>
>>>> It’s probably very rare, but if people check the text output of their
>>>> library or application and use scikit-image somewhere, this could even
>>>> break their test build.
>>>>
>>>> In Astropy there has also been some discussion about how to get
>>>> feedback from users. There the discussion was more along the lines of
>>>> wanting to collect info which platform, versions are in use, and which
>>>> sub-packages and functions in the Astropy package are used. I.e. there was
>>>> discussion about adding some code to send such usage stats info to a
>>>> server, like many apps do. This didn’t happen, I think the idea has been
>>>> dropped.
>>>>
>>>> It would be very nice and important to get more feedback from users!
>>>>
>>>> But it seems to me that asking for it on the website like Emma proposes
>>>> or in conversations and presentations might be the safer way.
>>>>
>>>> Christoph
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 26 Apr 2016, at 08:49, Emmanuelle Gouillart <emmanuelle... at nsup.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Stéfan
>>>>
>>>> I'm quite against it, since it's a feature that would push scikit-image
>>>> to be more an application and less a self-standing library: we would
>>>> like
>>>> any other package to be able to import skimage in their code without
>>>> bothering about such messages. Indeed, such a message at import is only
>>>> useful/relevant for people that use scikit-image deliberately and as an
>>>> important part of their workflow, not so much for people that import
>>>> skimage in another projects, or that just use a couple of functions of
>>>> scikit-image (but it's not the core part of their workflow). I consider
>>>> it important for scikit-image to be a versatile block of the ecosystem,
>>>> and not only an application at the end of the "food chain".
>>>>
>>>> We could advertise the feedback form in a different way, for example by
>>>> making it very visible on the website. With 20000 unique visitors coming
>>>> to the website every month, I hope that we could get some feedback...
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Emma
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:29:03PM +0000, Stéfan van der Walt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It has been difficult to discover use cases of scikit-image out in the
>>>> wild
>>>> (even though I know they are plentiful, and users would excitedly tell
>>>> me about
>>>> them at conferences once the topic is broached).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, I was wondering if it would be considered bad form to print a
>>>> message upon
>>>> importing scikit-image, something along the lines of:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Thank you for using scikit-image v0.12! Please help us by telling us
>>>> about
>>>> your use-case at http://scikit-image.org/feedback?v=0.12.3"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your feedback,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stéfan
>>>>
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>>
>> How about posting this message when skimage is installed? It could be
>> added to the setup.py script. But that would be visible only for users
>> installing skimage from source, since pip / conda / enpkg would most
>> probably suppress the message.
>>
>> Would it make sense to add a message in the LICENSE file?
>>
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