[spambayes-bugs] [ spambayes-Bugs-803227 ] spam score shows as 0% for first unread spam

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Bugs item #803227, was opened at 2003-09-10 01:30
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Category: Outlook
Group: None
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Duplicate
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Ryan Malayter (rmalayter)
Assigned to: Mark Hammond (mhammond)
Summary: spam score shows as 0% for first unread spam

Initial Comment:

With plug-in 007 and now 008, some spam messages get 
automatically filtered into my spam folder, but their 
spam scores are not saved correctly with the message. 
These messages show a score of 0% in the Outlook 
column view, even though they had to be scored above 
90% to be automatically moved by SpamBayes into my 
spam folder. 

See this graphic to see what I'm talking about. The 
highlighted meessage was automatically put into my 
spam folder, and when I run a manual "show spam clues" 
on the message, it shows up with a .987 score. But it 
still says 0% in outlook:
http://malayter.com/spamBayesScreen.gif

So really, this isn't a functionality bug, just a display 
bug, since the message is moved into the spam folder 
correctly. Although the incorrect score might cause 
problems if SpamBayes ever re-filters without re-
scoring. 

This bug seems to happen intermittently and randomly; I 
can discern no pattern.

I am running Outlook 2002 SP2 with all recent security 
fixes, on Windows XP SP1 with all recent security fixes. 
The mail server is Exchange 2000 SP3.

Let me know if you need more information,

Ryan


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>Comment By: Mark Hammond (mhammond)
Date: 2003-10-27 13:44

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This is a dupe of [ 737619 ] Message spam score is displayed
(and filtered) wrongly.  I'll track this there.

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Comment By: Chris Boelkes (cboelkes)
Date: 2003-10-16 07:26

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After watching this problem for a while, I think I have 
discovered the conditions that cause what we are seeing.  
Ryan's comment about the first e-mail in the Inbox when 
SpamBayes processes it, will always result in a 0% score and 
the message not moved to the Spam folder.  This always 
occurs on my system when that condition is met.

Also, for the other situation that I reported, where the 
message does get moved to the Spam folder, but has a score 
of 0%, I think I understand better what is happening.  These 
messages were filtered, scored correctly and moved to the 
Spam folder correctly.  However, the next time Outlook is 
brought up, SpamBayes will change score for the first 
message in the Spam folder to 0%.  Although I haven't run a 
lot of tests, this also appears to be 100% repeatable.

I think both of these symptoms are the result of the same 
problem.  In both cases when you show the Spam clues for 
the message with a score of 0%, it is scored correctly 
internally.  Just the Spam scoring column in the list view 
displays 0%.

Chris

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Comment By: Ryan Malayter (rmalayter)
Date: 2003-10-01 03:39

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I think there's acutally two different things going on here: 
The problem with the first message scoring incorrectly as 0% 
and NOT being moved, and also a problem with messages 
that ARE spam and ARE moved to my spam folder, but still 
have 0% saved in the Outlook spam field.

The first issue seems to happen whenever a spam message is 
listed first in my inbox view when I start outlook. It is 
repeatable.

THe second issue seems totally random, but is very 
infrequent (perhaps 1 out of 100 spams get captured 
correctly but still show 0% as their score).

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Comment By: Ryan Malayter (rmalayter)
Date: 2003-09-30 02:31

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A little further information: this seems to happen only to me 
when the FIRST message in my inbox is spam. The plug-in 
saves a 0% score in the spam field, and the messages is not 
filtered. However, if I manually run spam clues on it, it always 
scores above 90%.

I have a 10-second processing delay set at start, and my 
mail server is Exchagne 2003 SP3. I connect through native 
Exchagne RPC, not through IMAP or POP3 or anything.

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Comment By: Chris Boelkes (cboelkes)
Date: 2003-09-30 02:13

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I am encountering a similar problem, with a slight difference:
About 10% of the messages in the SPAM folder show 0% in 
the Outlook list view.  However, when the SPAM clues are 
displayed they appear to be scorded correctly...all in the .9+ 
range.

The difference from this reported problem:
About 20% of the SPAM messages are left in my Inbox with a 
0% score in the Outlook list view.  Again, these appear to be 
scored correctly (.9+ score) when the SPAM clues are 
examined.

I have never encountered this problem with Possible Spam.

This problem seems (so far) to occur with messages that are 
very high scoring (.9+) and has occured on plug-in 0.7, 0.8 
and 0.81.

I am running XP Pro SP1 with all current critical updates, 
Office 2000 SP3, and Exchange 5.5 SP4

I currently have specified a 4.0 second delay before starting 
processing and a 1.0 second delay between processing items.

Chris

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