[spambayes-bugs] [ spambayes-Bugs-797679 ] Recovered Mails filtered again

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Bugs item #797679, was opened at 2003-08-30 17:49
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Category: Outlook
Group: None
>Status: Pending
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Jan Albrecht (jaal2001)
Assigned to: Mark Hammond (mhammond)
Summary: Recovered Mails filtered again

Initial Comment:

I don't know if this a bug or a design problem, so I 
posting it here.
When I recover a mail from Spam Folder in my opinion it 
should be marked as good on the database.
I have reapperaing mails, which we're marked as spam. 
But no matter how often I recover them from spam, the 
next mail from these events will be filtered again. 
Is this the normail behaviour or a known problem?




>Comment By: Tony Meyer (anadelonbrin)
Date: 2005-01-21 16:44

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Yikes - this is very out of date.

This looks like a training imbalance problem (though it's so
old it doesn't have the counts).

If there is still a problem, please set the status back to


Comment By: Jan Albrecht (jaal2001)
Date: 2003-09-08 18:31

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here is the "clues" log from today morning.
Sorry for the XXX, but for security reasons I have to blank 
some things. But I've tried to change so little as possible.


Spam Score: 0.512408

word                                spamprob         #ham  #spam
'*H*'                               0.276798            -      -
'*S*'                               0.301613            -      -
'skip:a 10'                         0.180202          726     27
'ppp0'                              0.198911            4      0
'header:Message-Id:1'               0.22653           324     16
'inet'                              0.243728           21      1
'subject:New_Home_IP'               0.271305           18      1
'1,3d0'                             0.284601            2      0
'x-mailer:none'                     0.321254          932     75
'skip:e 20'                         0.369228           21      2
'reply-to:none'                     0.380298         1063    111
'to:2**0'                           0.625257          545    155
'header:Date:1'                     0.63781           583    175
'to:no real name:2**0'              0.643686          448    138
'header:From:1'                     0.648059          583    183
'protocol'                          0.749747            5      3
'to:addr:jan.albrecht'              0.86241           116    125
'header:Received:3'                 0.869959           77     89
'to:addr:XXX.de'            0.891541          116    164

Message Stream:

Received: from mx2.XXX.de ([XX.XX.XX.XX]) by mx2.XXX.de 
	SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service 
Version XXX)
	id SPB4HM05; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 04:59:55 +0200
Received: from XXX.XXX.XX.XXX by mx2.XXX.de (InterScan E-
	VirusWall NT); Mon, 08 Sep 2003 04:59:55 +0200
Received: (from root at localhost)
	by tower.center.bluecove (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 
8.11.1-0.5) id
	for jan.albrecht at XXX.de; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 05:00:04 
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 05:00:04 +0200
From: root <root at tower.center.bluecove>
<200309080300.h88303h17065 at tower.center.bluecove>
To: jan.albrecht at XXX.de
Subject: New_Home_IP

< ppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol  
<           inet addr:XXX.XXX.XX.XXX  P-t-P:XXX.X.XX.XX  

Message Tokens:

29 unique tokens

'skip:a 10'
'skip:e 20'
'skip:m 20'
'skip:p 10'
'to:no real name:2**0'


Comment By: Mark Hammond (mhammond)
Date: 2003-09-08 16:52

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Can you please attach the "clues" for one of these messages?


Comment By: Jan Albrecht (jaal2001)
Date: 2003-09-05 17:27

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no, it's not exactly the same mail.
The Mail contains the follwoing entries:

<           inet addr:XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX  P-t-
>           inet addr:MMM.MMM.MMM.MMM  P-t-

The X and M differs from mail to mail, as the're dynamic IP's. 
The other parts of the mail are the same.

When I do a "recover from spam" with this mail, the score 
does not shift ti zero. The score goes back from 60% to 59%.

The log is attached. Let me know, if you need more 


Comment By: Mark Hammond (mhammond)
Date: 2003-09-01 20:46

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Are you trying to repeatedly train the exact same mail, or a
new, similar one?  You can't train the same message multiple

Each time you train, you should notice the "spam score"
shift back towards zero.  It may not shift enough to have it
considered good, but it should shift.  It is does, then it
will eventually learn.  If it doesn't, then we have a bug -
but I will need the log file from a session where you have
tried to perform this training.  If you do submit the log
file, please reset the bug status to "open"


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