[Spambayes] progress on POP+VM+ZODB deployment

[Sean True]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spambayes-bounces@python.org
> [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of T. Alexander Popiel
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:11 PM
> To: Derek Simkowiak
> Cc: spambayes@python.org; popiel@wolfskeep.com
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] progress on POP+VM+ZODB deployment
>
>
> In message:  <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0210280842260.30862-100000@dev.itsite.com>
>              Derek Simkowiak <dereks@itsite.com> writes:
> >
> >	To summarize: I think it's the job of a spam filter (or "flagger")
> >to identify those messages univerally accepted as being spam --
> whether or
> >not any one person likes that kind of mail.
>
> I'm reasonably sure there is no consensus on the definition of spam,
> so the concept of 'universally accepted' spam is flawed at its root.
> Some people restrict it to unsolicited commercial email; some consider
> any marketing message to be spam.  Some don't care if its commercial
> or not.  Worst, for the lowest-common-denominator UCE definition,
> knowledge of the individual users is required (whether they solicited
> it or not).
>
> As such, I'd say your ideal universal flagger concept is unrealizable.

At this risk of being repetitive, for many large email systems, sponsored by
large companies, spam is "things that don't contribute to productivity".
Being able
to preemptively -- and intelligently -- filter out porn, get rich quick, and
Nigerian scam mail may be of real interest to people who administer 10000+
seat email systems.

This may not be the preferred way to use this filters, from _our_ point of
view,
but it will likely be an interesting one to the MIS manager in charge
of keeping system usage reasonable.

-- Sean