[Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation

Michael C. Neel neel at mediapulse.com
Sat May 22 17:18:46 EDT 2004

Pardon me for saying, but that's the most off-base I've ever read, lol.  It's clear you're not up on the claim (or the implied claims that is) of the SCO case.  Second you're also not clear on how opensource software works.  Last, if a lawer reads the python license and thinks the SCO case will have an affect on that in the slightest, you need to get a new lawer.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Coe, Bob 
  To: Michael C. Neel 
  Cc: spambayes at Python.org 
  Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 4:33 PM
  Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation

  What their lawyer thinks may be influenced by fear of the outcome of the SCO suit against IBM. If I'm not mistaken, SCO has already begun trying to squeeze royalties out of end users of Linux for alleged copyright violations of which the end users are admittedly blameless. If SCO wins (and in today's legal and political climate anything is possible), a lot of people may begin to rethink the value of open source licenses. I realize that Python isn't Linux, but almost any open source development has some roots in the Unix world if you look deep enough. I'm not scared to use Spambayes, but I guess I could understand the reluctance of someone who is. 

    -----Original Message-----
    From: spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov at python.org]On Behalf Of Michael C. Neel
    Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:39 AM
    To: Brent Bertram
    Cc: Bertram, Brent; spambayes at python.org
    Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation

    In the opensource world, who you are means nothing.  Check out the link Tim pointed out, www.opensource.org and read the open source definition, which defines what a license must do and not do to be open source, and you'll also find a list (with the psl included) of one's that meet this list.

    And then, if you guys are that big you've probably got a legal dept, so take one of those guys out to lunch and ask him to look at it (it's only a page or two), and see what he thinks.


    On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 08:22, Brent Bertram wrote: 
      Just want to remind everyone that we are a corporation, our software person says being a corporation changes things.  What is your experience with Open Source and Corporations?  I think they have their mind stuck on Freeware. 
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Michael C. Neel
        To: Tim Peters
        Cc: 'Brent Bertram' ; spambayes at python.org
        Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:06 AM
        Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation

The PSF license SpamBayes is released under does not require that.  
        I should have taken a moment to see which license was used before posting =p.  I really don't get into all the variations that exist, to me there are two types of opensource licenses, GNU and BSD, and SpamBayes falls under the BSD.  Brent, you should be able to shed off any license worries here, you won't be required to do much of anything except have a spam free inbox, lol.


          michael.neel at mediapulse.com
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