[Spambayes] Re: [spambayes-dev] A query on Frequently Asked Question 4.6

[Remi Ricard]

Hi Harry,

>>What I was trying to say is I'm running an old version since my Linux 
>>box (the one doing the filtering) as problem generating a db for my 
>>windows box. (They don't use the same version of the database) and I 
>>need a backup since I can't live whitout SpamBayes and sometime
>>my connection to my server at home dies and I do the filtering on the 
>>windows machine at work.
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>     Right, I see; I'm all interest. I am trying to get round to installing Linux and going down 
>that road, not only less well travelled but upon whose yellow bricks these tootsies have yet to 
>tread. 
>     I note that you have your own server at home - nice one. 
>  
>
Please don't DOS it since it is only a poor x486  running Freesco..... ;-)

>  
>
>>Oupssss. Did you stop the server before moving/renaming the files.
>>    
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>     Remi, I'm not sure about the significance of that but I didn't 'move' those two database 
>files. All I did was copy them elsewhere and then change their names. Is there something wrong 
>in doing that? The 'originals' are still located at the end of the correct path. 
>
>    With regard to Tony's information and query...
>  
>
>>Database corruption is quite uncommon these days, but we're not certain how
>>it can be caused.  Do you have any idea what might have caused yours?  Did
>>SpamBayes or your computer crash while training, or something like that?
>>Note that it might not have been just before the error occurred - sometimes
>>    
>>
This might have been caused by the hard reboot you did to make your PC 
reach its homepage...


>     Well, I'll put this on Hold and go and delete, hammie.db and its pal, 
>spambayes.messageinfo.db  and enjoying a revived SpamBayes, will come back and let you know...
>     {pause for a minute to count to ten - I lost a chunk of this post - anyway forging on}
>     ...with the hidden files enabled in the Documents and Settings there are five sections; 
>Administrator; All Users; Default User; H Sigerson; Harry Sigerson. 
>     It's a stand alone machine and I am the Administrator. Only the last two went all the way 
>to Proxy and the two database files. 
>  
>
This is because you were login as those users when you installed Spambayes.


>     
>     When I went down the, C:\Documents and Settings\Harry Sigerson\Application Data\Spam 
>Bayes\Proxy\  path there where the twosome   hammie.db   and   spambayes.messageinfo.db. 
>     When I tried to delete them they wouldn't go; they were being used elsewhere. 
>  
>
Check if Spambayes is still running. You should stop it and then delete 
the two files.

>     
>     When I went down the other, C:\Documents and Settings\H Sigerson\Application Data\Spam 
>Bayes\Proxy\   there they were again but this time deleting them was straight forward and they 
>went off to the Recycle Bin and got dumped from there. So far so good. 
>  
>
This is because Spambayes don't use the two files. This can be an old 
version or the files for another user. Check under which name you login.

>     
>     I went back to the first, the  \Harry Sigerson\  one and again tried to dump them from 
>there  once again they refused to go.  I've tried rebooting the machine to see if that helped 
>but no; they were still gone for the one and still in this one. 
>     
>     I've tried and will now do so again, to send and receive some email but I again got that 
>set of code error lines which tells that these two database files are still in place. Anyway 
>back in mo...
>     ...no go. I got the error lines again so the database files are still in place. 
>     
>     I cant' recall why there is both  \H Sigerson\   and a    \Harry Sigerson\   user. I know 
>that it dates back to when I was being advised that it was a bad idea to run a stand alone 
>machine as Administrator. So some degree of advice and 'learning' went into things. 
>     At the moment, in Administrative Tools from the Control Panel, then into Computer 
>Management and select the 'Groups's folder of 'Local Users and Groups' and then clicking 
>Administrators, there are two entries  Administrator  and   Harry Sigerson. 
>     In the same location but clicking on Power Users, the only entry there is  H Sigerson. 
>     Leaving that 'Groups' folder and opening its twin, the 'Users' folder, the 'Harry Sigerson 
>Properties' box's 'Members of' tab calls him up as one of the Administrators and one of the 
>Users. 
>     H Sigerson, in his 'Properties' box is called up as a Member of Power Users and Users. 
>     
>     I don't know if that gives any clues as to why I can't delete those two database files from 
>what is supposed to be in the control of an Administrator (Harry Sigerson) I just don't know. 
>     Deleting   hammie.db   and   spambayes.messageinfo.db    is proving difficult. 
>     I suppose uninstalling and then re-installing is one way to go but it would be so much more 
>satisfying to just find out why those database files cannot be dumped. 
>  
>
I'm more a programmer and a Unix administrator than a Windows 
administrator so I don't want to comment on that and give the chance to 
people to laugh at me. ;-)

Remi