[Spambayes] Re: [spambayes-dev] wish: autotraining

falcon_050 falcon_050 at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 5 08:29:17 CET 2004

Hi Tony,

Tx for your response. The setting I am referring to is in the advanced settings page. I thought it would mean that the autotrained spam-messages would not appear in the (manual) traininglist marked as spam. Do I read that it wont work because this is not a "procmail-based solution" ?



Training Options 
      Train when filtering:    No  
       Yes         Train when filtering: Train when filtering? After filtering a message, hammie can then train itself on the judgement (ham or spam). This can speed things up with a procmail-based solution. If you do enable this, please make sure to retrain any mistakes. Otherwise, your word database will slowly become useless. 
      Current Value:  Yes 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tony Meyer 
  To: 'falcon_050' 
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:40 PM
  Subject: RE: [spambayes-dev] wish: keep spam-mail from downloading to OE6

  > Is it possible to not send mail marked "spam" to OE but
  > instead just keep it in the SB's cache. While
  > training I still can view these messages if I want to. 

  This can't really be done with just a POP3 proxy.  Basically, OE asks the
  server how many messages there are to download and then asks to download
  each of them.  To not retrieve spam, sb_server would either have to modify
  the message count or fail to deliver the message when asked.

  The former can't be done, because SpamBayes doesn't know the classification
  of messages until it retrieves them (it needs the whole message to tell).
  To correctly modify the list, it would have to classify *all* messages just
  to get the list, which isn't practical.

  The latter doesn't work, because then the mailer (e.g. OE) doesn't
  understand why the message failed to download and will report this as an

  One way to achieve the same result would be to have a filter periodically
  run that connects to your POP3 server, classifies all the messages, and
  removes the spam.  An example of such a filter is on the wiki
  <http://entrian.com/sbwiki> and in the SpamBayes source (CVS and,
  eventually, 1.1).  This is more complex to run, however, and doesn't really
  suit most situations.

  > PS I somehow can't get the auto-train option to work

  What option?  Do you mean [Hammie] train_on_filter ?  If so, that's not an
  option that's available to sb_server - pretty much all options relevant to
  sb_server are available via the web interface.


  Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies
  (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
  http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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