[Spambayes] Off the List Please

Jesse Pelton jsp at PKC.com
Thu Nov 18 18:30:49 CET 2004

Huh.  I'm stuck with Outlook here at work, and it doesn't display the
footer (maybe because it's text/plain?).  Perhaps part of the solution
is indeed technical, but in Microsoft's court.  I imagine a lot of the
people who ask how to get off the list are also using Outlook and cannot
see the footer.  You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him
drink, especially if (as in this case) he doesn't know it's there.  I
wonder what would happen if there were a text/html inline attachment.

Anyway, it was just an idea, intended to reduce the load on the good
people who respond to postings to this list.  If it's a bad or
unworkable idea, I'm happy to release it back into the nothingness from
which it came. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Peters [mailto:tim.peters at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:20 AM
> To: Jesse Pelton
> Cc: spambayes at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Off the List Please
> Mailman already attaches the list info to HTML msgs, in a
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>     MIME-Version: 1.0
>     Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>     Content-Disposition: inline
> MIME section, part of a top-level MIME multipart/mixed structure. If
> an email reader doesn't display the list info inline, as it was asked
> to do, then I'd call it a flaw in that email client.  Mailman also
> includes a List-Unsubscribe header in every message it sends, spelling
> out two ways to unsubscribe.
> I agree with Bob that nothing would make a real difference.  A small
> percentage of subscribers have no idea how to unsubscribe, and decades
> of experience on many lists says that will never change, no matter how
> clear or prominent the instructions.
> For the same reasons, a small percentage of people still open virus
> attachments, and there's even emprical evidence backing the fantastic
> claim that some still send money in response to spam <wink>.
> the-problem-here-ain't-technical-it's-human-ly y'rs  - tim

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