[Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?
Kenneth Sole
sole at soleassociates.com
Tue Feb 15 15:06:12 CET 2005
Dear Tony & all,
Here are the spam clues for a message that was in my Review folder,
and also in my Spam folder:
As Tony said earlier, it is "about as Spammy as you can get, but the
two identical messages are handled differently by SpamBayes. Below the
Clues, I have provided the log.
Combined Score: 100% (0.997149)
Internal ham score (*H*): 0.00519378
Internal spam score (*S*): 0.999491
# ham trained on: 143
# spam trained on: 725
46 Significant Tokens
token spamprob #ham #spam
'inc.' 0.083481 45 20
'bi:please let' 0.151285 4 3
'recent' 0.159347 11 10
'consultant' 0.225851 3 4
'new' 0.247485 68 113
'second' 0.252054 9 15
'thank' 0.272227 45 85
'senior' 0.293227 3 6
'please' 0.297894 88 189
'year,' 0.298036 2 4
'did' 0.305063 19 42
'accurate.' 0.311207 1 2
'bi:content-type:text/plain subject:You' 0.311207 1 2
'bi:that two' 0.311207 1 2
'skip:n 10' 0.316825 15 35
'not' 0.328949 85 211
'business' 0.339118 22 57
'subject:.' 0.340599 23 60
'happy' 0.349989 14 38
'bi:this your' 0.384719 1 3
'have' 0.388424 78 251
'header:Reply-To:1' 0.632261 22 192
'bi:to:2**0 x-mailer:none' 0.647024 40 372
'bi:header:Subject:1 proto:http' 0.662693 33 329
'url:php' 0.772258 7 121
'bi:reach you' 0.844828 0 1
'bi:been notified' 0.908163 0 2
'bi:credit history' 0.908163 0 2
'bi:offer past' 0.908163 0 2
'bi:site ensure' 0.908163 0 2
'factor.' 0.908163 0 2
'inquiry,' 0.908163 0 2
'url:biz' 0.923664 1 64
'advisors' 0.934783 0 3
'bi:our terms' 0.934783 0 3
'bi:records are' 0.934783 0 3
'secure,' 0.934783 0 3
'bi:offering you' 0.949438 0 4
'bi:this special' 0.949438 0 4
'remember,' 0.958716 0 5
'bi:accordance with' 0.965116 0 6
'deal.' 0.965116 0 6
'lenders' 0.965116 0 6
'url:refid' 0.965116 0 6
'bi:are interested' 0.969799 0 7
'bi:your information' 0.983271 0 13
Message Stream
Return-Path: <A.slackener181 at manjarrez.com>
Delivered-To: soleassociates.com-sole at soleassociates.com
Received: (qmail 15770 invoked by uid 107); 15 Feb 2005 08:16:13 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO 66.132.226.8) (220.83.190.155)
by s9006.hostcentric.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2005 08:16:13 -0000
Received: from 6958042271.mankelmuth.com (0330376192.manjok.com
[212.222.208.79]) by 220.83.190.155 Microsoft
SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1041); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:14:15 -0600
Message-ID: <M7dyQ-01631N-6T at manitouinc.com>
From: "WARD Arianna" <G.flob227 at manitowoc.gannett.com>
Reply-To: "Julia " <lMASON_LN at manitobalife.com>
To: sole at soleassociates.com
Subject: You Qualified.
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:14:15 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="8043373382"
X-Webmail-Time: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:06:15 -0400
Alert, This is your Second Notification:
Thank you for your recent inquiry, we have been notified that two
lenders are interested in offering you a deal. Remember, for this
special
offer past credit history is not a factor.
In accordance with our terms please verify your information on our
secure, private site to ensure our records are accurate.
http://www.lendx.biz/index2.php?refid=ph420
Happy New Year,
--MORALES
Senior Business Consultant - Low-Rate Advisors Inc.
Did this reach you in error? please let us know...thx
http://www.lesdgt.com/r.php
All Message Tokens
95 unique tokens
'--morales'
'accordance'
'accurate.'
'advisors'
'alert,'
'are'
'been'
'business'
'cc:none'
'consultant'
'content-type:text/plain'
'credit'
'deal.'
'did'
'ensure'
'error?'
'factor.'
'for'
'from:addr:g.flob227'
'from:addr:manitowoc.gannett.com'
'from:name:ward arianna'
'happy'
'have'
'header:Date:1'
'header:From:1'
'header:MIME-Version:1'
'header:Message-ID:1'
'header:Received:3'
'header:Reply-To:1'
'header:Return-Path:1'
'header:Subject:1'
'header:To:1'
'history'
'inc.'
'information'
'inquiry,'
'interested'
'know...thx'
'lenders'
'let'
'low-rate'
'message-id:@manitouinc.com'
'new'
'not'
'notified'
'offer'
'offering'
'our'
'past'
'please'
'private'
'proto:http'
'reach'
'recent'
'records'
'remember,'
'reply-to:addr:lmason_ln'
'reply-to:addr:manitobalife.com'
'reply-to:name:julia '
'second'
'secure,'
'sender:none'
'senior'
'site'
'skip:n 10'
'special'
'subject: '
'subject:.'
'subject:Qualified.'
'subject:You'
'terms'
'thank'
'that'
'this'
'to:2**0'
'to:addr:sole'
'to:addr:soleassociates.com'
'to:no real name:2**0'
'two'
'url:biz'
'url:com'
'url:index2'
'url:lendx'
'url:lesdgt'
'url:ph420'
'url:php'
'url:r'
'url:refid'
'url:www'
'verify'
'with'
'x-mailer:none'
'year,'
'you'
'your'
Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db'
Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db'
Bayes database initialized with 724 spam and 143 good messages
SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.2 (January 2005) starting
(with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004))
on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4)
using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
(Intel)]
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Desktop/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Desktop/Junk SPAM'
Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer
FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' -
(-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None,
0, -2147467259), None)
The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar...
Message 'RE: Starter...?' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'No'
Message 'Updates on our site (eaten)' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'
Moving and spam training message 'Updates on our site (eaten)' -
Training on message 'Updates on our site (eaten)' in 'Desktop/Junk
REVIEW - trained as spam
Message 'Vecodin, Viiagra are Cheeap OkT' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Vecodin, Viiagra are Cheeap OkT' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Re [23]' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of
'Yes'
Message '100% Automated System! can earn you 6 Figure Income Online!'
in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Claim your Gift Card!' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'secret source for deep discount viag-ra' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Claim your Gift Card!' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'FREE Smiley Faces for your email' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'Don't condoms suck?' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: gibson banjo' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: toyota sienna 2004' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: tommy bahama shirt silk large' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: yamaha silent guitar' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: wheatstone concertina' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: "Nat Nast" shirt silk large -e' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: vega banjo' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: Tommy Bahama silk long -xl -xx' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: wordperfect office suite' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'Viiagra and Xa'naax are Cheeap kS4xHi' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had
a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Miss you already' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'DESCUENTE SUS CHEQUES' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'viste lo que paso?' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'ADV: your private secret' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Increase the volume of your ejaculation.' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'do you hate traffic cameras?-quizzes butt ' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Interested' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of
'Yes'
Message 'Have a document to print but you are low on ink?' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Tadalafil Soft Tabs - Great results!' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had
a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Harder means happier! tips and tricks inside' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Become happy with your performance' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'You Qualified.' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'
Message 'You Qualified.' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'
Message 'Super Bases 14 CDs $ 80.-' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'First-Rate Rx' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'
Message 'Vecodiin, Viiagra are Cheeap meA0' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Vecodiin, Viiagra are Cheeap meA0' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'You Qualified.' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'
It would appear from the log that the message ("You Qualified") came
in twice, and was classified as Spam both times. Yes, as on occasion
before, one is moved the the Spam Folder, and one is moved to the
"Review" folder.
What might be appropriate next steps to figure this out?
Very sincere thanks,
--
Kenneth
Sole & Associates, Inc.
Box 292
Durham, New Hampshire 03824
Voice: 603-659-3169
Fax: 603-659-2248
Email: sole at soleAssociates.com
URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6
-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces at python.org
[mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of Kenneth Sole
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:45 AM
To: 'Kenneth Sole'; 'Tony Meyer'; spambayes at python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?
Hello again,
I just saw that my log is written each time I run a send/receive
cycle. As a result, the log that I sent might not be relevant to my
issue.
Thanks,
--
Kenneth
Sole & Associates, Inc.
Box 292
Durham, New Hampshire 03824
Voice: 603-659-3169
Fax: 603-659-2248
Email: sole at soleAssociates.com
URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Sole [mailto:sole at soleassociates.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:40 AM
To: 'Tony Meyer'; 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes at python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?
Hi Tony & All,
I just received another duplicate message. As happens occasionally,
one went to the Spam Folder, and the other to my Review Folder.
Here is the Log:
Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db'
Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db'
Bayes database initialized with 652 spam and 134 good messages
SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.2 (January 2005) starting
(with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004))
on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4)
using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
(Intel)]
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Desktop/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Desktop/Junk SPAM'
Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer
FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' -
(-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None,
0, -2147467259), None)
The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar...
Message 'cleanse bijective ' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'
Is the line:
"Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer"
the indication of my problem?
I should add that the log above is the one visible when I first
noticed the double message. I get mail frequently and wonder if the
log I have above might be from a run after the message was received.
How might I know that?
Thanks for any further help,
--
Kenneth
Sole & Associates, Inc.
Box 292
Durham, New Hampshire 03824
Voice: 603-659-3169
Fax: 603-659-2248
Email: sole at soleAssociates.com
URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:58 PM
To: 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes at python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?
> Well, it did not take long to have the opportunity to check the
> "clues." I just received two messages (an eBay phishing spam). One
> moved to my review folder, the other to my spam folder. The messages
> appeared identical, and so as per your suggestion, I checked the
> "clues."
>
> To my surprise, they appear identical as well...
And they both scored 100%, which as spammy as you can get. This means
that
it's not a problem with correctly scoring the message, but with moving
the
message to the spam folder.
Next time this happens could you grab a copy of your log file
(SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->View Log) and
send us
a copy of that? Either there will be an error or there should be
clues in
the messages that are there that will let us figure out what's
happening.
=Tony.Meyer
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