[Spambayes] Inspecting images (was: SpamBayes toHandleEmbeddedImages)

Ken Gordon ksg at telusplanet.net
Thu Oct 27 16:11:58 CEST 2005


I was wrong - misled by my own failure to run a controlled experiment.

These things run so well and smoothly that one tends to forget about 
them - they merge with the background. But I run SpamBayes in 
combination with the Mail.app spam filter under OS X. So as a control, 
I turned the Mail.app filter off for a while. The results of the 
experiment are that SB catches some; Mail.app catches others; I see 
very few. Except for those that are trapped by the sort of things that 
are pointed to in the SB header that I posted, the mainly-image spams 
are being caught by Mail.app, not by SpamBayes. I won't presume to 
comment on whether there is anything in Mail.app that could inform how 
SB deals with images.

Now I will return to my blissful spam-free existence by turning the 
Mail.app filter on again.

Ahhhhh ... that's better.

---
Ken Gordon

On 2005 Oct 26, at 21:55, <FreeMJ at HotPop.com> wrote:

> Ken,
> Please post the entire Spambayes Clues listing, so I can see what 
> Spambayes
> is doing with all the erroneous ham text that's included at the bottom 
> of
> your e-mail message example.
>
> Thanks,
> FMJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spambayes-bounces at python.org 
> [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On
> Behalf Of Ken Gordon
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:26 AM
> To: spambayes at python.org; <FreeMJ at HotPop.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Inspecting images (was: SpamBayes
> toHandleEmbeddedImages)
>
> There's a lot more to spambayes than just evaluating content. Here's 
> the SB
> Evidence header from a recent spam. But for 'charset', very little of 
> this
> has to do with the content, yet it was correctly classified as spam.
>
>> X-Spambayes-Evidence: 	'*H*': 0.00; '*S*': 1.00;
> 'received:192.168.1':
>> 0.10; 'subject:skip:B 10': 0.16; 'received:192.168': 0.20;
>> 'received:192': 0.21; 'url:www': 0.23; 'content-type:image/jpeg':
>> 0.34;  'to:addr:none': 0.38; 'header:Return-Path:1': 0.38;
>> 'header:MIME-Version:1': 0.61; 'url:': 0.64; 'x-mailer:none': 0.71;
>> 'to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'from:name:\x1b$b5z at nf`1{\x1b(b': 0.84;
>> 'message-id:@imx100522.ath.cx': 0.84; 'received:imx100522.ath.cx':
>> 0.84; 'url:fetish': 0.84; 'received:192.168.1.11': 0.91;
>> 'received:kick': 0.91; 'content-type:multipart/related': 0.92;
>> 'received:210.153': 0.93; 'received:ath.cx': 0.93; 'url:cc': 0.93;
>> 'virus:src="cid:': 0.95; 'content-type/type:multipart/alternative':
>> 0.96; 'received:cx': 0.97; 'email addr:yahoo.co.jp': 0.99; 'skip:\x1b
>> 80': 0.99; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.jp': 1.00; 'from:charset:iso-2022-jp':
>> 1.00; 'skip:\x1b 60': 1.00; 'skip:\x1b 30': 1.00; 'skip:\x1b 20':
>> 1.00; 'skip:\x1b 50': 1.00; 'subject:$': 1.00; 'received:210': 1.00;
>> 'charset:iso-2022-jp': 1.00; 'subject:\x1b$': 1.00;
>> 'subjectcharset:iso-2022-jp': 1.00
>
>
>
> On 2005 Oct 25, at 8:37, <FreeMJ at HotPop.com> wrote:
>
>> How?  Technically speaking, what could your SpamBayes installation be
>> doing differently?  These are ALL ham words, so how is it that your
>> e-mail could be classifying all of this as Spam?  If it is, I suspect
>> you're losing a lot of legitimate e-mail with it.
>>
>> FMJ
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ken Gordon [mailto:ksg at telusplanet.net]
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 8:58 PM
>> To: FreeMJ at HotPop.com
>> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Inspecting images (was: SpamBayes to
>> HandleEmbeddedImages)
>>
>> My installation of SpamBayes catches nearly all of these. I don't see
>> one a month outside of the Spam folder.
>>
>> ---
>> Ken Gordon
>> (780) 628-2758
>> http://www.wolfe-gordon.ca
>> On 2005 Oct 24, at 20:18, <FreeMJ at HotPop.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>> The problem is, they keep changing the meaningless text at the bottom
>>> of the e-mail all the time, to confuse the Spam filter.  They're
>>> picking Hammy words.  And, as you can see, it's a highly effective
>>> technique.  In other words, NONE of the "Tokens" should actually be
>>> "Significant", it's the image that needs to be scored in this case.
>>> Here's the spambayes clues for one of the e-mails:
>>>
>>> Combined Score: 3% (0.0330173)
>>> Internal ham score (*H*): 0.999976
>>> Internal spam score (*S*): 0.0660102
>>>
>>> # ham trained on: 14237
>>> # spam trained on: 20138
>>>
>>> 150 Significant Tokens
>>> token                               spamprob         #ham  #spam
>>> 'sender:no real name:2**0'          0.0277535        2187     88
>>> 'dismissed'                         0.0374933         314     17
>>> 'raising'                           0.0417704         313     19
>>> 'lives'                             0.0580962        1012     88
>>> 'ill'                               0.0613924        1084    100
>>> 'said'                              0.0677803        6498    668
>>> 'two'                               0.08226          5200    659
>>> 'put'                               0.0828439        2632    336
>>> 'were'                              0.0845653        6094    796
>>> 'recalled'                          0.0862187          92     12
>>> 'town'                              0.0883783         600     82
>>> 'being'                             0.0894639        4312    599
>>> 'letter'                            0.093344         1595    232
>>> 'unless'                            0.0960663         687    103
>>> 'stephan'                           0.0968154          15      2
>>> 'face'                              0.0986506        1397    216
>>> 'who'                               0.0991493        8031   1250
>>> 'knows'                             0.102049          574     92
>>> 'anyone'                            0.104976         1828    303
>>> 'them'                              0.106325         4690    789
>>> 'think'                             0.107446         3584    610
>>> 'keep'                              0.109385         2517    437
>>> 'him'                               0.111552         2631    467
>>> 'suspicions'                        0.113796           40      7
>>> 'went'                              0.11401          1331    242
>>> 'sound'                             0.116592          596    111
>>> 'care'                              0.117491         1244    234
>>> 'going'                             0.119623         3503    673
>>> 'sort'                              0.119677          511     98
>>> 'his'                               0.119861         5717   1101
>>> 'remained'                          0.11998           271     52
>>> 'heavily'                           0.123551          232     46
>>> 'last'                              0.126157         5241   1070
>>> 'subject:: '                        0.134951         9110   2010
>>> 'voice'                             0.135891          644    143
>>> 'walk'                              0.140296          339     78
>>> 'everyone'                          0.140502         1225    283
>>> 'whatever'                          0.141645          618    144
>>> 'overdosed'                         0.142155           48     11
>>> 'mother'                            0.144908          510    122
>>> 'way'                               0.146154         3458    837
>>> 'was'                               0.146612         8939   2172
>>> 'would'                             0.146893         7679   1870
>>> 'but'                               0.14865          8435   2083
>>> 'past'                              0.155513         1932    503
>>> 'duty'                              0.15756           326     86
>>> 'been'                              0.158577         6937   1849
>>> 'away'                              0.159247         1632    437
>>> 'soon'                              0.16154          1021    278
>>> 'header:In-Reply-To:1'              0.162139         1791    490
>>> 'made'                              0.163602         3467    959
>>> 'true'                              0.164161          566    157
>>> 'too'                               0.164462         2199    612
>>> 'then'                              0.167186         3519    999
>>> 'road'                              0.169212          459    132
>>> 'covington'                         0.170591           18      5
>>> 'firmly'                            0.171729           69     20
>>> 'received'                          0.172468         1646    485
>>> 'yes'                               0.17276           275     81
>>> 'other'                             0.174723         6686   2002
>>> 'offered'                           0.177462          702    214
>>> 'saw'                               0.178119          738    226
>>> 'might'                             0.184601         2399    768
>>> 'hotel'                             0.185114          203     65
>>> 'thought'                           0.186457         1287    417
>>> 'her'                               0.187192         2831    922
>>> 'indeed'                            0.18721           191     62
>>> 'lie'                               0.188538          165     54
>>> 'filled'                            0.188682          329    108
>>> 'assorted'                          0.198662           32     11
>>> 'intent'                            0.199592          596    210
>>> 'manner'                            0.200765          192     68
>>> 'second'                            0.203991         1311    475
>>> 'let'                               0.207891         1835    681
>>> 'much'                              0.210328         3345   1260
>>> 'back'                              0.211425         3207   1216
>>> 'place'                             0.214507         1704    658
>>> 'out'                               0.216398         6503   2540
>>> 'little'                            0.218176         2273    897
>>> 'within'                            0.218497         1940    767
>>> 'occupied'                          0.218989           56     22
>>> 'never'                             0.222876         2224    902
>>> 'take'                              0.223351         4101   1668
>>> 'subject:-'                         0.223886         2564   1046
>>> 'find'                              0.224822         2482   1018
>>> 'play'                              0.230279          518    219
>>> 'skip:n 10'                         0.233772         2561   1105
>>> 'eyes'                              0.234231          294    127
>>> 'that'                              0.245614        11155   5137
>>> 'thoughts'                          0.250399          193     91
>>> 'observed'                          0.252899          109     52
>>> 'not'                               0.253605         9451   4542
>>> 'have'                              0.260054        10350   5145
>>> 'myself'                            0.268888          281    146
>>> 'with'                              0.272839        10712   5685
>>> 'skip:r 10'                         0.274264         4752   2540
>>> 'look'                              0.276317         1963   1060
>>> 'can'                               0.286752         7254   4125
>>> 'guided'                            0.29442            24     14
>>> 'all'                               0.300499         8283   5033
>>> 'resign'                            0.304561           39     24
>>> 'contracts'                         0.313223          163    105
>>> 'subject:Alert'                     0.322897           61     41
>>> 'upon'                              0.326586          853    585
>>> 'skip:i 10'                         0.332672         4717   3326
>>> 'for'                               0.339583        12494   9087
>>> 'topics'                            0.371008          114     95
>>> 'the'                               0.371613        13338  11157
>>> 'above'                             0.380529          678    589
>>> 'header:Return-Path:1'              0.635635         6219  15346
>>> 'consults'                          0.695316            3     10
>>> 'comparative'                       0.728703           17     65
>>> 'earnest'                           0.747547           24    101
>>> 'friendship'                        0.796906            6     34
>>> 'blush'                             0.797234           13     73
>>> 'skip:7 70'                         0.805302            5     30
>>> 'expedition'                        0.825248            9     61
>>> 'from:addr:g.wcvbss'                0.844828            0      1
>>> 'from:addr:netnitco.net'            0.844828            0      1
>>> 'from:name:raymond goins'           0.844828            0      1
>>> 'lensalizarin'                      0.844828            0      1
>>> "m'scorset"                         0.844828            0      1
>>> 'message-id:@icsp.net'              0.844828            0      1
>>> 'ownthat'                           0.844828            0      1
>>> 'prominents'                        0.844828            0      1
>>> 'roadsthat'                         0.844828            0      1
>>> 'sender:addr:athenet.net'           0.844828            0      1
>>> 'sender:addr:h.nnq'                 0.844828            0      1
>>> 'subject:< '                        0.844828            0      1
>>> 'subject:Stiles'                    0.844828            0      1
>>> 'totrue'                            0.844828            0      1
>>> 'virus:src="cid:'                   0.888282          111   1250
>>> 'congenial'                         0.905802            5     70
>>> 'taters'                            0.907976            1     16
>>> 'skip:7 90'                         0.908163            0      2
>>> 'header:Received:2'                 0.914966          886  13487
>>> 'diem'                              0.92631             3     56
>>> 'subject:CBXC'                      0.949438            0      4
>>> 'rotund'                            0.952904            1     33
>>> 'blushingly'                        0.958716            0      5
>>> 'refolding'                         0.969799            0      7
>>> 'egress'                            0.970088            1     53
>>> 'to:name:freemj'                    0.988432            0     19
>>> 'septennial'                        0.990405            0     23
>>> 'veal'                              0.993066            0     32
>>> 'youll'                             0.993469            0     34
>>> 'subject:Stock'                     0.99571             0     52
>>> 'casteth'                           0.995868            0     54
>>> 'cutlet'                            0.996894            0     72
>>> 'to:addr:hotpop.com'                0.997792           23  14803
>>>
>>> Message Stream
>>> Return-Path: <H.jykqli at valkyrie.net>
>>> Received: from 38.113.3.52 (unknown [200.107.173.172])
>>> 	by mx1.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP
>>> 	id 5B8A0E8304; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 23:49:29 +0000 (UTC)
>>> Received: from spellbound.gape.jeffersonian.gauguin.es
>>> ([200.107.173.172]
>>> 	helo=scatterbrain.mail.elknet.net) by smtp9.bt.com with esmtp
>>> 	id 0X162p-8865LL-80; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:48:41 +0100
>>> Message-Id: <8927397790.37444460700 at icsp.net>
>>> Sender: H.nnq at athenet.net
>>> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:42:41 -0400
>>> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:46:41 -0400."
>>> 	<98802417987115.YV37184 at joel.renaissance.arden.net>
>>> From: "Raymond Goins" <G.wcvbss at netnitco.net>
>>> To: "Freemj" <freemj at hotpop.com>
>>> Subject: Fwd: Stock - Alert-CBXC< Neil Stiles
>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>> Content-Type: multipart/related;
>>>    boundary="--ZZR8PVzcRDTpf2Pu68MQiz"
>>> X-HotPOP-Delivered-To: freemj at hotpop.com
>>>
>>>
>>> negligiblestymie breakwatergrist m'scorset
>>> 	
>>>
>>>
>>> We went to the triumph comparative at egress diem then a mouldy sort
>>> of establishment have my place so I blushingly offered to resign it
>>> The septennial who made as much of my going away as if I were going
>>> to China received me as an was dismissed and other topics occupied us
>>> he remained so seldom raising
>>> his eyes unless to	
>>> true Rosanne was suspicions arose within me that it was an ill
>>> assorted friendship that he never thought of being observed by anyone
>>> but was so intent upon her and upon his ownthat I received soon
>>> recalled me to myself and put me in the road back to the hotel I was
>>> so filled with the play and with the past for it was in a manner
>>> Everyone who knows you consults with you and is guided by you Stephan
>>> but on second thoughts I shall keep him to take care of me 	
>>> and refolding the letter it would be insupportable to me to think of
>>> I am in earnest at last so youll soon have to arrange our contracts
>>> and to bind us firmly to them been overdosed with taters I commanded
>>> him in my deepest voice to order a veal cutlet and potatoes Yes I am
>>> on an expedition of duty My mother lives a little way out of town and
>>> the roadsthat I received soon recalled me to myself and put me in the
>>> road back to the hotel for I saw a faint blush in her face you would
>>> have let me find it out for myself that would not lie too heavily
>>> upon her purse and to do my duty in it whatever it might be and the
>>> prominents walk and the congenial sound of the rotund casteth
>>> hovering above them all
>>> 7iVHrKDJTsgBJsJa4Nezv5RgkNpN5NYq6gowYZF0z3De6QLplaiyWM4rm4wSXsXeg7Mik
>>> U
>>> R
>>> q
>>> reWfg7M6dwtJ4t1Fxn
>>> as he can look at me out of his two eyes Is he indeed said Mr
>>> Covington
>>>
>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;
>>> charset=windows-1252"> <TITLE>lensalizarin impregnatecost</TITLE>
>>> </HEAD> <BODY> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="0" CELLSPACING="0">
>>> <TR><TD><font></font><font></font>
>>> <BR><STRONG></STRONG><IMG
>>> SRC="cid:lTN1QnT11CtJIk8H6J5X7INGgMff2pS at prairieweb.com" border="0"
>>> ALT="negligiblestymie breakwatergrist m'scorset">
>>> <BR><STRONG></STRONG><font></font><FONT face="Verdana"
>>> size=1><FONT></FONT></font></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT
>>> size=1><BR><BR><font></font><STRONG></STRONG>We went to the triumph
>>> comparative at egress diem  then a mouldy sort of
>>> establishment<BR>have my place  so I blushingly offered to resign it
>>> <STRONG></STRONG><STRONG></STRONG>The septennial  who made as much of
>>> my going away as if I were going to China  received me as an<BR>was
>>> dismissed and other topics occupied us  he remained so seldom raising
>>> his eyes unless to</FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT size=1>true Rosanne
>>> was  suspicions arose within me that it was an ill assorted
>>> friendship  <BR>that he never thought of being observed by anyone but
>>> was so intent upon her  and upon his own<FONT
>>> SIZE=2></FONT><font></font>that I received  soon recalled me to
>>> myself  and put me in the road back to the hotel<BR>I was so filled
>>> with the
>>> play  and with the past   for it was  in a manner<BR>Everyone who
>>> knows you
>>> consults with you  and is guided by you  Stephan  <BR>but  on second
>>> thoughts  I shall keep him to take care of me
>>> </FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT size=1>and refolding the letter  it
>>> would be
>>> insupportable to me to think of  <BR>I am in earnest at last   so
>>> youll soon
>>> have to arrange our contracts  and to bind us firmly to
>>> them<font></font><BR>been overdosed with taters  I commanded him  in
>>> my deepest voice  to order a veal cutlet and potatoes<BR>Yes  I am on
>>> an expedition of duty  My mother lives a little way out of town and
>>> the roads<font></font><FONT SIZE=2></FONT>that I received  soon
>>> recalled me to myself  and put me in the road back to the
>>> hotel<BR>for I saw a faint blush in her face  you would have let me
>>> find it out for myself <font></font>that would not lie too heavily
>>> upon her purse and to do my duty in it whatever it might be  <BR>and
>>> the prominents walk  and the congenial sound of the rotund casteth
>>> hovering above them all
>>> <BR>7iVHrKDJTsgBJsJa4Nezv5RgkNpN5NYq6gowYZF0z3De6QLplaiyWM4rm4wSXsXeg
>>> 7
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>>> indeed said Mr  Covington  </FONT></TD></TR></TABLE> </BODY> </HTML>
>>>
>>> All Message Tokens
>>> 187 unique tokens
>>>
>>> 'above'
>>> 'all'
>>> 'and'
>>> 'anyone'
>>> 'arose'
>>> 'arrange'
>>> 'assorted'
>>> 'away'
>>> 'back'
>>> 'been'
>>> 'being'
>>> 'bind'
>>> 'blush'
>>> 'blushingly'
>>> 'but'
>>> 'can'
>>> 'care'
>>> 'casteth'
>>> 'cc:none'
>>> 'china'
>>> 'commanded'
>>> 'comparative'
>>> 'congenial'
>>> 'consults'
>>> 'content-type:text/plain'
>>> 'contracts'
>>> 'covington'
>>> 'cutlet'
>>> 'deepest'
>>> 'diem'
>>> 'dismissed'
>>> 'duty'
>>> 'earnest'
>>> 'egress'
>>> 'everyone'
>>> 'expedition'
>>> 'eyes'
>>> 'face'
>>> 'faint'
>>> 'filled'
>>> 'find'
>>> 'firmly'
>>> 'for'
>>> 'friendship'
>>> 'from:addr:g.wcvbss'
>>> 'from:addr:netnitco.net'
>>> 'from:name:raymond goins'
>>> 'going'
>>> 'guided'
>>> 'have'
>>> 'header:Date:1'
>>> 'header:From:1'
>>> 'header:In-Reply-To:1'
>>> 'header:MIME-Version:1'
>>> 'header:Message-Id:1'
>>> 'header:Received:2'
>>> 'header:Return-Path:1'
>>> 'header:Subject:1'
>>> 'header:To:1'
>>> 'heavily'
>>> 'her'
>>> 'him'
>>> 'his'
>>> 'hotel'
>>> 'hovering'
>>> 'ill'
>>> 'indeed'
>>> 'intent'
>>> 'keep'
>>> 'knows'
>>> 'last'
>>> 'lensalizarin'
>>> 'let'
>>> 'letter'
>>> 'lie'
>>> 'little'
>>> 'lives'
>>> 'look'
>>> "m'scorset"
>>> 'made'
>>> 'manner'
>>> 'message-id:@icsp.net'
>>> 'might'
>>> 'mother'
>>> 'mouldy'
>>> 'much'
>>> 'myself'
>>> 'never'
>>> 'not'
>>> 'observed'
>>> 'occupied'
>>> 'offered'
>>> 'order'
>>> 'other'
>>> 'our'
>>> 'out'
>>> 'overdosed'
>>> 'ownthat'
>>> 'past'
>>> 'place'
>>> 'play'
>>> 'potatoes'
>>> 'prominents'
>>> 'purse'
>>> 'put'
>>> 'raising'
>>> 'recalled'
>>> 'received'
>>> 'refolding'
>>> 'remained'
>>> 'reply-to:none'
>>> 'resign'
>>> 'road'
>>> 'roadsthat'
>>> 'rosanne'
>>> 'rotund'
>>> 'said'
>>> 'saw'
>>> 'second'
>>> 'seldom'
>>> 'sender:addr:athenet.net'
>>> 'sender:addr:h.nnq'
>>> 'sender:no real name:2**0'
>>> 'septennial'
>>> 'shall'
>>> 'skip:7 70'
>>> 'skip:7 90'
>>> 'skip:b 10'
>>> 'skip:e 10'
>>> 'skip:i 10'
>>> 'skip:n 10'
>>> 'skip:r 10'
>>> 'soon'
>>> 'sort'
>>> 'sound'
>>> 'stephan'
>>> 'subject: '
>>> 'subject: - '
>>> 'subject:-'
>>> 'subject:: '
>>> 'subject:< '
>>> 'subject:Alert'
>>> 'subject:CBXC'
>>> 'subject:Fwd'
>>> 'subject:Neil'
>>> 'subject:Stiles'
>>> 'subject:Stock'
>>> 'suspicions'
>>> 'take'
>>> 'taters'
>>> 'that'
>>> 'the'
>>> 'them'
>>> 'then'
>>> 'think'
>>> 'thought'
>>> 'thoughts'
>>> 'to:2**0'
>>> 'to:addr:freemj'
>>> 'to:addr:hotpop.com'
>>> 'to:name:freemj'
>>> 'too'
>>> 'topics'
>>> 'totrue'
>>> 'town'
>>> 'triumph'
>>> 'true'
>>> 'two'
>>> 'unless'
>>> 'upon'
>>> 'veal'
>>> 'virus:src="cid:'
>>> 'voice'
>>> 'walk'
>>> 'was'
>>> 'way'
>>> 'went'
>>> 'were'
>>> 'whatever'
>>> 'who'
>>> 'with'
>>> 'within'
>>> 'would'
>>> 'x-mailer:none'
>>> 'yes'
>>> 'you'
>>> 'youll'
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: spambayes-bounces at python.org
>>> [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 9:43 PM
>>> To: <FreeMJ at HotPop.com>
>>> Cc: spambayes at python.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Inspecting images (was: SpamBayes to
>>> HandleEmbeddedImages)
>>>
>>>> Something really needs to be done about this embedded image Spam.
>>>> Honestly,
>>>> SpamBayes appears to be ineffective against all these images,
>>>
>>> Can you post an example of a message that is incorrectly classified,
>>> *with the spambayes clues* for the message?  The Outlook plug-in
>>> provides this via the "Show Clues for this Message" item in the
>>> SpamBayes menu.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>> I'm sure OCR isn't the only way, but the words are there in plain
>>>> view.  It seems like the obvious way to resolve this.
>>>
>>> Obvious isn't always best.  One of the tenets here is "stupid beats
>>> smart" - I think doing some sort of OCR on images would fall into the
>>> "smart" category, and generating simple tokens from the images would
>>> fall into the "stupid" category and be more successful.  Just my
>>> opinion, of course, but that's what I'd test if I had time (perhaps
>>> over the (southern hemisphere) summer...or maybe I can convince one
>>> of my employers that this would be worth doing in paid time).
>>>
>>>> SpamBayes has been such a great program for me and my colleges,
>>>> family and friends.  I can only hope that the project sees fit to
>>>> resolve this soon.
>>>
>>> It's not really a case of "seeing fit" - the issue is that the
>>> developers are very short on time at the moment (contributions have
>>> always been, and always will be, welcome) and, in addition, this is a
>>> complex problem.
>>>
>>> =Tony.Meyer
>>>
>>> --
>>> Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your
>>> replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about
>>> SpamBayes.
>>> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains 
>>> this.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SpamBayes at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
>>> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SpamBayes at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
>>> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
>>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SpamBayes at python.org
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> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
>
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