[Spambayes] An Ever-Increasing Problem

Fri Dec 1 21:14:15 CET 2006

A couple of things come to mind. I'd run at least one malware detection
tool on my machine to make sure it wasn't running anything I didn't want
(and then try to get the same thing done on other company machines). I'd
ask the administrator of my e-mail server if there's a way to capture
the messages sent by machines under my company's control (in the hopes
of determining whether my machine or someone else's in the network
originated messages that result in bounces, and if so, what their origin
was). While there, I'd ask him/her if setting up SPF would help contain
the problem.

And, of course, I'd ask the SpamBayes list for ideas. ;-)

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From: Stephens B. Woodrough [mailto:sbwlaw at tampabay.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 2:40 PM
To: Jesse Pelton
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] An Ever-Increasing Problem

Thank you for your thoughtful comments.  Assuming your assessment is
correct, what action(s) would you take if you were in my position?

Again, thank you for your time and attention.

Sincerely, 

Stephens B. Woodrough
THE BANKING LAW FIRM
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 2:05 PM
To: Stephens B. Woodrough; spambayes at python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] An Ever-Increasing Problem

SpamBayes does not send any messages. Even if it did, it wouldn't
automatically send unsubscribe messages; the developers are very
conservative, as evidenced by their consistent stance against
automatically deleting messages.

I would guess that it's more likely that some spammer is sending
messages that purport to come from you (hence they bounce back to you if
they can't be delivered), or that your machine has become a spambot and
is actually sending the returned messages.

Others on the list may have more insightful and/or creative thoughts.

________________________________

From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]
On Behalf Of Stephens B. Woodrough
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:50 PM
To: spambayes at python.org
Subject: [Spambayes] An Ever-Increasing Problem

Dear Sirs:

I have recently experienced a very large increase in "returned" emails
as "undeliverable."  I now receive over 500 each day.  The SpamBayes
filter, of course, places them in the Spam folder and they are later
deleted permanently.  I don't know for sure, but I suspect that since
virtually all of this returned email is coming from servers that were
used to forward spam which SpamBayes filtered, the filter program must
be sending a message back, asking to be "unsubscribed" - and that the
result is an ever-increasing cycle of repeated "returned" emails from
those servers.  Stated differently, are these new returned emails being
sent to me caused by "reply" emails being sent by SpamBayes, asking that
my address be "unsubscribed, which are then returned back to me as
"undeliverable?"  If so, is there any way to disable the SpamBayes
feature that sends a reply email asking that I be unsubscribed?

This is becoming a very BIG  problem for my office, and I would be very
appreciative of any help.

Sincerely,

Stephens B. Woodrough
THE BANKING LAW FIRM
100 Beach Drive Suite 1801-03
St. Petersburg, Florida  33701
http://www.fedbanklaw.com <http://www.fedbanklaw.com/> 
Tel. (727) 898-9009
Fax. (727) 898-9006

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