[Spambayes] FW: question

Jesse Pelton jsp at PKC.com
Wed Oct 3 14:50:54 CEST 2007

There's some useful information in this previously private exchange, so
I'm forwarding to the list (with Bob's permission) so it will be


From: Coe, Bob [mailto:rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:19 PM
To: Jesse Pelton
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] question

I think you're probably right. AFAIK, any spam filtering done at the
Exchange level wouldn't be overridable by a user. The caveat to that is
that we're still running an ancient version of Exchange pending our
upgrade to 2007 later in the fall. But I'll be surprised if the new
version changes that behavior much.


BTW, turning off Outlook's filtering is a very good idea, IMO. My
experience was that it generated a lot of false positives. I finally
turned it off and rely exclusively on Spambayes to mop up what our
Barracuda doesn't catch.


From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:17 AM
To: Coe, Bob
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] question


Yeah, I was sloppy and should have been more specific, rather than
treating Outlook and Exchange as if they're the same thing. You can turn
off Outlook's filtering, but as far as I know, ordinary users can't
prevent Exchange's Intelligent Message Filter from putting messages in
their Junk folder. Only the Exchange administrator can do that, and then
only on a global basis. Our administrator was unwilling to do that, with
reason, since SpamBayes users are in the minority here.


Caveat: My understanding is based in part on interpreting pages 7 - 10
of the "Microsoft Exchange Server Intelligent Message Filter v2
Operations Guide" available at
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa996624.aspx, but the
document is somewhat ambiguous and I may have misunderstood.



From: Coe, Bob [mailto:rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:10 AM
To: Jesse Pelton
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] question



In the discussion you cited, you're quoted as believing that Outlook's
spam filtering can't be turned off. That's certainly not the case in
Outlook 2007 nor (as I recall) in Outlook 2003. In Outlook 2007 (the
only one I have in front of me at the moment) it's Tools - Options -
Junk E-mail - No Automatic Filtering.




From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]
On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:42 AM
To: Jan Bouterse; spambayes at python.org
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] question


I don't think that's coming from SpamBayes. Maybe Outlook or your mail
server adds that as a service of sorts; you could try contacting the
administrator of your mail server. See
for a recent discussion of a similar issue (with no real resolution,



From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]
On Behalf Of Jan Bouterse
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:28 AM
To: spambayes at python.org
Subject: [Spambayes] question

First, let me commend you on your awesome program! 
Please let me know how I get writ of the SPAM-LOW that appears in front
of some of the subjects in outlook's "subject field"

I thank you in advance, 

Jan Bouterse, 
Director of Business Development 
Hardwood Designs, Inc. 
511 Valley Forge Rd. 
Hillsborough, NC 27278 
phone  919-643-1100 
fax  919-643-1101 
www.hardwooddesigns.com <file:///\\www.hardwooddesigns.com>  

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of Hardwood Designs Inc."

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