[stdlib-sig] Evolving the Standard Library

Michael Foord michael at voidspace.org.uk
Wed Sep 16 15:18:32 CEST 2009


John Szakmeister wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Armin Ronacher
> <armin.ronacher at active-4.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I'm known for my dislike of the standard libray.  In the past I wrote
>> some blog posts about this topic into my personal blog already.  However
>> as many people pointed out earlier, a blog is not the place for this
>> kind of criticism.  Not only that, also just ranting about a topic does
>> not help at all.  Yesterday I subscribed to the stdlib-sig and
>> immediately tons of mails ended up in my inbox.  A quick look at the
>> mail archives confirms what I was afraid of: this list is really high
>> traffic.  I tried to read up some of the discussions I missed but it's
>> nearly impossible to do that.
>>     
>
> I think that's out of the norm... the list has been quiet until recently. :-)
>
> [snip]
>   
>> Any maybe we should have some elected task forces for things like the
>> standard library.  Judging from the mailinglist it appears that far too
>> many people are discussing *every detail* of it.  It is a good idea to
>> ask as many people as possible, but I am not sure if the mailinglist is
>> the way to do that.  It is currently very hard to see the direction in
>> which development is heading.
>>
>>
>> Please think of this email just as a suggestion.  I don't have too much
>> trust into myself to follow the discussions on this list camely enough
>> to become a real part of a solution, but I would love to help shifting
>> the development into a better direction, no matter which one it will be.
>>     
>
> Just a thought: PyCon 2010 is around the corner.  Open space?
> Something more formalized?  Is that too late (because we will have
> lost momentum)?
>   

It looks like it will be something covered at the language summit, but 
an open space is a good idea. Backwards compatibility is a *big* problem 
for any major refactoring though.

Michael

> -John
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