From bradallen137 at gmail.com Sun May 2 20:19:21 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 13:19:21 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas MoinMoin wiki up and running! Message-ID: Folks, The PyTexas wiki is up and running! http://bradallen137.webfactional.com/PyTexas Obviously that is not the DNS we want; hopefully Jeff can fix the DNS to have continuity with previous year PyTexas sites. Also, of course, we have some content-related work to do on the site, including adding a left sidebar for navigation, and a better theme than the default MoinMoin theme. I'll be adding content over the next few days, but please feel free to jump in and contribute. A login is not required to edit the site; to prevent spam I've enabled a security option called 'textcha'. However, if you intend to be a regular contributor, please create a login so your contributions won't be anonymous. Here is some info on the 'textcha' feature: http://bradallen137.webfactional.com/PyTexas/HelpOnSpam If anyone is interested in helping with administering the site, please contact me and let me know. This is a MoinMoin 1.9 site using Apache with mod_wsgi. From bradallen137 at gmail.com Sun May 16 23:39:41 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:39:41 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas program committee Message-ID: Who wants to be on the PyTexas 2010 program committee? I'm planning to send out the call for proposals very soon. From bradallen137 at gmail.com Mon May 17 00:18:39 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 17:18:39 -0500 Subject: [Texas] new PyTexas wiki page Message-ID: There is now a way to avoid having to fill out the pesky 'textcha' question on the PyTexas wiki; see the new instruction page: http://pytexas.org/HowToEditPyTexasWiki From bradallen137 at gmail.com Mon May 17 01:26:10 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 18:26:10 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas 2010 registration announcement sent out Message-ID: I've sent the following announcement to the DFW, Houston, and Austin user group mailing lists, and am planning to post soon to Python-announce and on Planet Python (via the DFW Python wiki). --------------------------------------------------- PyTexas 2010 (August 28 in Baylor) is now open for registration! Whether you are tentative, definite, or can't make it, please let us know at Talks are not yet announced; we are looking for program committee volunteers as well as speakers. I'd like to send out the call for proposals sometime within the next week. For more info on PyTexas, see the front page at http://pytexas.org/ From bradallen137 at gmail.com Mon May 17 02:04:26 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 19:04:26 -0500 Subject: [Texas] pytexas.org in Google search results Message-ID: Right now a Google search for PyTexas returns the old PyTexas site; any ideas on how to get the new site at the top of the list? Btw, I have updated the front page of the old PmWiki site at http://pycamp.python.org/Texas/HomePage so that it explains the wiki has moved to the new site. From bradallen137 at gmail.com Mon May 17 02:30:11 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 19:30:11 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas offers free sponsorships Message-ID: http://dfwpython.blogspot.com/2010/05/pytexas-offers-free-sponsorships.html From brad at allendev.com Mon May 10 04:22:35 2010 From: brad at allendev.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 21:22:35 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [dfwPython] PyTexas MoinMoin wiki up and running! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There is now a DNS entry for the PyTexas wiki: http://pytexas.org/ For now I am managing that domain until it can be handed over to some community process. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Folks, > > The PyTexas wiki is up and running! > > ? ?http://bradallen137.webfactional.com/PyTexas > > Obviously that is not the DNS we want; hopefully Jeff can fix the DNS > to have continuity with previous year PyTexas sites. > > Also, of course, we have some content-related work to do on the site, > including adding a left sidebar for navigation, and a better theme > than the default MoinMoin theme. > > I'll be adding content over the next few days, but please feel free to > jump in and contribute. > > A login is not required to edit the site; to prevent spam I've enabled > a security option called 'textcha'. However, if you intend to be a > regular contributor, please create a login so your contributions won't > be anonymous. > > Here is some info on the 'textcha' feature: > > ? ?http://bradallen137.webfactional.com/PyTexas/HelpOnSpam > > If anyone is interested in helping with administering the site, please > contact me and let me know. This is a MoinMoin 1.9 site using Apache > with mod_wsgi. > _______________________________________________ > dfwPython mailing list > dfwPython at dfwpython.org > https://www.dfwpython.org/mailman/listinfo/dfwpython > From bradallen137 at gmail.com Mon May 17 16:52:24 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 09:52:24 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [python-188] PyTexas 2010 registration is now open In-Reply-To: References: <1668317987.1274052207373.JavaMail.nobody@james3> Message-ID: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > Brad, > > Arthur here, a newbie with the Austin Python group.? I work for a market > research firm (Illuminas) and am sure my company would allow me to program, > host, and deploy a survey for the PyTexas event (we use Confirmit). > > Just let me know who to work with on this and I can assist with moving this > forward. Great! Thanks for stepping foward, Arthur. Would this be 'pro bono'? As an organization we have zero dollars by design. I would really like some help in deploying surveys and capturing the results. I am not sure how the community will respond to a market research firm doing the surveys but we can try it and see what happens :-) There are really multiple groups we'd like to receive survey feedback from: * Regular Python user group attendees in major Texas cities * Potential Python user group attendees in those same cities * Students from Baylor and surrounding universities * Faculty from Baylor and surrounding universities I have some ideas for survey questions which we can develop collaboratively with the local Python community, probably by forming the questions on the wiki. What do you think? From brad at allendev.com Mon May 17 18:09:28 2010 From: brad at allendev.com (Brad Allen) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 11:09:28 -0500 Subject: [Texas] We have a PyTexas logo! Message-ID: Folks, checkout the logo Alan Beam contributed. Thanks, Alan! I'll get it up on the wiki as soon as I can. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Alan Beam Date: Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:24 AM Subject: PyTexas Logo To: Brad Allen Brad, I put a link to this image in the IRC channel last week, but I don't think you were there. I threw this logo together as a contribution towards PyTexas. I'm open to feedback or for someone else to take this and improve upon it. I hope you find it helpful! Thanks, Alan Beam -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pytexas_logo_small.png Type: image/png Size: 8525 bytes Desc: not available URL: From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Mon May 17 20:10:47 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:10:47 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [python-188] PyTexas 2010 registration is now open In-Reply-To: References: <1668317987.1274052207373.JavaMail.nobody@james3> Message-ID: Of course, pro bono. Hopefully everyone will be fine with it, just a way for me to offer some expertise and give access to a survey tool - of course if there's resistance I can program / run something in SurveyMonkey or some other free tool. Either way works. In terms of development, sure we can use a wiki to hammer out the key questions. Arthur On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Brad Allen wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: > > Brad, > > > > Arthur here, a newbie with the Austin Python group. I work for a market > > research firm (Illuminas) and am sure my company would allow me to > program, > > host, and deploy a survey for the PyTexas event (we use Confirmit). > > > > Just let me know who to work with on this and I can assist with moving > this > > forward. > > Great! Thanks for stepping foward, Arthur. Would this be 'pro bono'? > As an organization we have zero dollars by design. > > I would really like some help in deploying surveys and capturing the > results. I am not sure how the community will respond to a market > research firm doing the surveys but we can try it and see what happens > :-) > > There are really multiple groups we'd like to receive survey feedback from: > > * Regular Python user group attendees in major Texas cities > * Potential Python user group attendees in those same cities > * Students from Baylor and surrounding universities > * Faculty from Baylor and surrounding universities > > I have some ideas for survey questions which we can develop > collaboratively with the local Python community, probably by forming > the questions on the wiki. > > What do you think? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kevin.horn at gmail.com Mon May 17 21:29:11 2010 From: kevin.horn at gmail.com (Kevin Horn) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 14:29:11 -0500 Subject: [Texas] We have a PyTexas logo! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Awesome! On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Brad Allen wrote: > Folks, checkout the logo Alan Beam contributed. > > Thanks, Alan! I'll get it up on the wiki as soon as I can. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Alan Beam > Date: Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:24 AM > Subject: PyTexas Logo > To: Brad Allen > > > Brad, > > I put a link to this image in the IRC channel last week, but I don't > think you were there. I threw this logo together as a contribution > towards PyTexas. I'm open to feedback or for someone else to take this > and improve upon it. I hope you find it helpful! > > > Thanks, > > Alan Beam > > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Tue May 18 01:42:53 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 18:42:53 -0500 Subject: [Texas] We have a PyTexas logo! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Jeremy Lowery wrote: > Hello everyone, > I might as well introduce myself to the list. I moved to Texas in 08 and > work in Temple. I do a lot of Python, web development and (god forbid) COBOL > in the prescription claims processing biz. Have been programming Python for > about 10 years now. I'm probably going to make it to Pytexas this year > (seeing as how it's only 30 minutes away from my house) and I might try to > make it to some Austin Meetups. > I just wanted to chime in and say that Texas Python logo looks awesome! > Great work Alan! Thanks for the intro, Jeremy. I look forward to meeting you at PyTexas, and of course you're welcome to join us at the DFW Python user group meetings if you're ever in the Dallas area. We hang out on IRC at Freenode under #dfwpython, and our mailing list signup page is at Wow, 10 years Python experience is significant. Did you do Python web development that whole time? I'm curious where you landed among all the Python the web frameworks. P.S. Among the Texas Python developers, we now know of three named Jeremy whose last name starts with 'L'. From bradallen137 at gmail.com Tue May 18 02:00:32 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:00:32 -0500 Subject: [Texas] construction of survey questions Message-ID: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > Of course, pro bono.? Hopefully everyone will be fine with it, just a way > for me to offer some expertise and give access to a survey tool - of course > if there's resistance I can program / run something in SurveyMonkey or some > other free tool.? Either way works.? In terms of development, sure we can > use a wiki to hammer out the key questions. Ok, I've gotten started on this page: http://pytexas.org/SurveyQuestions2010 Others are welcome to chime in and help construct questions/answers. I may add more questions later this evening. From jslowery at gmail.com Tue May 18 03:51:02 2010 From: jslowery at gmail.com (Jeremy Lowery) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 20:51:02 -0500 Subject: [Texas] We have a PyTexas logo! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > Thanks for the intro, Jeremy. I look forward to meeting you at > PyTexas, and of course you're welcome to join us at the DFW Python > user group meetings if you're ever in the Dallas area. We hang out on > IRC at Freenode under #dfwpython, and our mailing list signup page is > at > > If I'm ever in the area, I'll be sure to see when your meetup is. I don't get up to Dallas very often. > Wow, 10 years Python experience is significant. Did you do Python web > development that whole time? I'm curious where you landed among all > the Python the web frameworks. > > It's hard to estimate, but I'd say that 4 of those 10 years I've had active Python web projects going on. But I've done quite a bit of PHP and Classic ASP web development as well. The web frameworks I've had the most experience with are webware (quite some time ago) and cherrypy. The majority of the time I've used CGI-like environments (CGI, SCGI and FastCGI) and no framework. The reasons are wide and varied. I've played with most of the frameworks out there (django, turbogears, pylons) but have done nothing I'd stake my reputation on with them. I've had quite some bad experiences with the constantly shifting sands under frameworks and non-backwards compatibility problems. I try to minimize (and hopefully localize) my non-standard dependencies. Over the past 2 years, I've gotten very excited about WSGI. I'm currently loving mod_wsgi under apache and trying to find time to migrate some of my projects from CGI to WSGI. I'd throw myself in the Ian Bicking DIY camp. I've wanted to spend some quality time with paste but haven't yet (aside from my tinkering with pylons and using paste as a library). Here is my current "framework" http://www.thensys.com/?p=41 P.S. Among the Texas Python developers, we now know of three named > Jeremy whose last name starts with 'L'. > Cool. That's a bit freakish! Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Tue May 18 04:54:29 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 21:54:29 -0500 Subject: [Texas] We have a PyTexas logo! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Brad Allen wrote: > Folks, checkout the logo Alan Beam contributed. > > Thanks, Alan! I'll get it up on the wiki as soon as I can. It's up on the wiki now, though a bit oversized. I guess that's well and good for a Texas logo :-) From jtgalyon at gmail.com Tue May 18 16:57:59 2010 From: jtgalyon at gmail.com (Jason Galyon) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:57:59 -0500 Subject: [Texas] We have a PyTexas logo! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1274194679.14227.1.camel@breetown> On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 11:09 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > Folks, checkout the logo Alan Beam contributed. > > Thanks, Alan! I'll get it up on the wiki as soon as I can. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Alan Beam > Date: Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:24 AM > Subject: PyTexas Logo > To: Brad Allen > > > Brad, > > I put a link to this image in the IRC channel last week, but I don't > think you were there. I threw this logo together as a contribution > towards PyTexas. I'm open to feedback or for someone else to take this > and improve upon it. I hope you find it helpful! > > > Thanks, > > Alan Beam > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas Alan, this is outstanding! Thank you so much for this :) Jason From bradallen137 at gmail.com Fri May 21 04:02:18 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 21:02:18 -0500 Subject: [Texas] delivery of PyTexas survey Message-ID: > Arthur here, a newbie with the Austin Python group. I work for a market > research firm (Illuminas) and am sure my company would allow me to program, > host, and deploy a survey for the PyTexas event (we use Confirmit). Arthur, hopefully we'll have the survey done within the next few days. Please take a look at the wiki page and let me know how you think it's shaping up. I'm wondering what you meant by 'deploy'. Would that include ways of getting in contact with students and faculty at Baylor and surrounding universities? We can easily send this survey to the Python community, but it will be more challenging to reach students. My earlier plan had been to send letters to faculty members at Baylor to see if they would send the survey to students. Let me know what you think. Thanks! From bradallen137 at gmail.com Fri May 21 03:53:12 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 20:53:12 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey Message-ID: Rather than send out separate surveys for different groups, I think it'll be better to keep it simple with one survey. Please take a look and let me know what you think. I would like to get this survey sent out soon, so we need your feedback right away. http://pytexas.org/SurveyQuestions2010 Thanks! From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Fri May 21 16:42:24 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 09:42:24 -0500 Subject: [Texas] delivery of PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK I will give this a review later in the day. To reach students, I don't see a problem with the method you're suggesting - this is commonly how doctoral candidates recruit participants so it should be sufficient. In reality, the professors commonly forward the emails to their class list so in the letter be sure to have a prepared email as if you were sending it yourself; that is, make it so the profs don't have to do any work since that will interfere with the overall success and survey hit rate. Arthur On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > > Arthur here, a newbie with the Austin Python group. I work for a market > > research firm (Illuminas) and am sure my company would allow me to > program, > > host, and deploy a survey for the PyTexas event (we use Confirmit). > > Arthur, hopefully we'll have the survey done within the next few days. > Please take a look at the wiki page and let me know how you think it's > shaping up. > > I'm wondering what you meant by 'deploy'. Would that include ways of > getting in contact with students and faculty at Baylor and surrounding > universities? > > We can easily send this survey to the Python community, but it will be > more challenging to reach students. > > My earlier plan had been to send letters to faculty members at Baylor > to see if they would send the survey to students. > > Let me know what you think. > > Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Arthur On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Brad Allen wrote: > We have some contacts within Baylor university for reaching students > there, but what about surrounding universities? > > Would any of you be willing to work on establishing contact at other > nearby universities (Texas A&M, UT Austin, other nearby schools?) > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Fri May 21 18:05:11 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:05:11 -0500 Subject: [Texas] Call for Proposals based on PyOhio template Message-ID: Catherine from PyOhio sent her blessing that we can use her call for proposals as a template for the PyTexas call for proposals. Here's the basic format, though I intend to change the introductory text. Any comments? I'm planning to send out the PyTexas call for proposals next Sunday. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Catherine Devlin Date: Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 8:35 PM Subject: PyOhio Call for Proposals To: python-announce-list at python.org ?============================== PyOhio Call For Proposals 2010 ============================== PyOhio 2010, the third annual Python programming conference for Ohio and the surrounding region, will take place Saturday-Sunday, July 31-Aug 1, 2010 at the Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio. A variety of activities are planned, including tutorials, scheduled talks, Lightning Talks, Open Spaces and Sprints. PyOhio invites all interested people to submit proposals for scheduled talks, tutorials, and panels. All topics of interest to Python programmers will be considered. Standard presentation slots will be 40 minutes plus a 10 minute question-and-answer period. PyOhio is especially interested in hosting a Beginner's Track for those new to Python or new to programming in general. If your proposal would be suitable for inclusion in a Beginner's Track, please indicate so. Organizers will work with speakers and instructors in the Beginner's Track to help them coordinate their talks/tutorials into a smooth, coherent learning curve for new Python users. To ensure that you provide all necessary information, please use the submission template provided below. If organizing a panel, please confirm all panelists' intention to participate before submitting your proposal. PyOhio may record presentations for later release over the web. Presenters will need to sign a release of recording rights to PyOhio; see http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyOhio/RecordingRelease All proposals should be emailed to cfp at pyohio.org for review. Please submit proposals by May 10, 2010. Accepted speakers will be notified by May 24. You can read more about the conference at http://pyohio.org. If you have questions about proposals, please email cfp at pyohio.org. You can also contact the PyOhio organizers at pyohio-organizers at python.org. ----------------------------------------------------------------- .. Proposal submission template for PyOhio 2010 .. Columbus, OH July 31 - Aug 1, 2010 .. Information at http://pyohio.org or pyohio-organizers at python.org .. Submit by May 10, 2010 to cfp at pyohio.org .. Template uses reStructuredText format: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html Presentation Title ================== :Type: (one of) talk, hands-on tutorial, panel, ... :Presenter: presenter name :Python level: beginner, intermediate, advanced, any, ... :Moderator: moderator name (panels only) :Panelists: panelist 1, panelist 2, panelist 3 (panels only) Description ----------- Here, give a description of your event's topic, suitable for printing in the PyOhio event booklet. Aim for 150 words or less. ?It should help attendees decide whether the event is right for them. Extended description -------------------- Here, give more details to help the program committee evaluate your proposal. This will not be published in the program guide. Include anything that will help the committee understand your proposal. If you are requesting a slot different from the standard 40 + 10 minutes, explain what you require and why. Outline ------- Outline the overall structure for your talk. This portion will not be included in the program guide, but will be used by the program committee; a good outline shows that you have begun well-organized preparation. Panel proposals don't need outlines, since they are fundamentally unpredictable. I. Cats ? a. Small carnivores ? b. Dangers ? ? ?1. Tripping hazard ? ? ?2. Bite toes II. Dogs (etc...) Bio --- A brief biography of you and/or the panelists, for publication in the program guide: anything about you that you'd like attendees to know. 100 words or less, or 200 for panels with multiple panelists. Recording release ----------------- I will sign the recording release agreement (text at http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyOhio/RecordingRelease). .. Email to to cfp at pyohio.org by May 10, 2010 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list ? ? ? ?Support the Python Software Foundation: ? ? ? ?http://www.python.org/psf/donations/ From jnials at gmail.com Fri May 21 22:00:54 2010 From: jnials at gmail.com (Jon Nials) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 15:00:54 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Questions for everyone section: You guys are forgetting professional sysadmins. Please don't forget that is where a lot of this stuff is driven from. We often don't spend enough time to really consider ourselves "developers", but we are a heck of a lot more than amateurs.... -Jon On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > I agree; as previously mentioned going to give this some attention today. > > Arthur > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Brad Allen wrote: >> >> Rather than send out separate surveys for different groups, I think >> it'll be better to keep it simple with one survey. >> >> Please take a look and let me know what you think. I would like to get >> this survey sent out soon, so we need your feedback right away. >> >> http://pytexas.org/SurveyQuestions2010 >> >> Thanks! >> _______________________________________________ >> Texas mailing list >> Texas at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > From bradallen137 at gmail.com Fri May 21 22:24:57 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 15:24:57 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good catch; thanks. I'm also realizing we forgot to ask a question about t-shirt sizes. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Jon Nials wrote: > Questions for everyone section: > > You guys are forgetting professional sysadmins. ?Please don't forget > that is where a lot of this stuff is driven from. ?We often don't > spend enough time to really consider ourselves "developers", but we > are a heck of a lot more than amateurs.... > > -Jon > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: >> I agree; as previously mentioned going to give this some attention today. >> >> Arthur >> >> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Brad Allen wrote: >>> >>> Rather than send out separate surveys for different groups, I think >>> it'll be better to keep it simple with one survey. >>> >>> Please take a look and let me know what you think. I would like to get >>> this survey sent out soon, so we need your feedback right away. >>> >>> http://pytexas.org/SurveyQuestions2010 >>> >>> Thanks! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Texas mailing list >>> Texas at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Texas mailing list >> Texas at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas >> >> > From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Sat May 22 16:46:23 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 09:46:23 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all I've made best attempts to incorporate everyone's feedback and structure the survey with some best practices in-place. It is currently in test mode so has a password associated with it. Once we finalize any outstanding issues and/or additions we can remove the password and consider this a live survey and can distribute the link. You may submit feedback to the group or website and I will track issues and ensure they are incorporated. Arthur url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 p: pytex2010test On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Good catch; thanks. > > I'm also realizing we forgot to ask a question about t-shirt sizes. > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Jon Nials wrote: > > Questions for everyone section: > > > > You guys are forgetting professional sysadmins. Please don't forget > > that is where a lot of this stuff is driven from. We often don't > > spend enough time to really consider ourselves "developers", but we > > are a heck of a lot more than amateurs.... > > > > -Jon > > > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Arthur Aguirre > > wrote: > >> I agree; as previously mentioned going to give this some attention > today. > >> > >> Arthur > >> > >> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Brad Allen > wrote: > >>> > >>> Rather than send out separate surveys for different groups, I think > >>> it'll be better to keep it simple with one survey. > >>> > >>> Please take a look and let me know what you think. I would like to get > >>> this survey sent out soon, so we need your feedback right away. > >>> > >>> http://pytexas.org/SurveyQuestions2010 > >>> > >>> Thanks! > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Texas mailing list > >>> Texas at python.org > >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Texas mailing list > >> Texas at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > >> > >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Sat May 22 17:21:40 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 10:21:40 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Excellent! Thanks Arthur. I just went through the survey; it probably took about one minute. I am starting to think the introductory text should not be within the tutorial, but in the place where the tutorial is advertised. Today we have a DFW Python user group meeting, and I'll ask everyone to go through the survey and let me know what they think. It would be nice if the survey showed the PyTexas logo on each screen. Does SurveyMonkey allow you to customize the background of the survey? On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > Hi all > > I've made best attempts to incorporate everyone's feedback and structure the > survey with some best practices in-place.? It is currently in test mode so > has a password associated with it.? Once we finalize any outstanding issues > and/or additions we can remove the password and consider this a live survey > and can distribute the link.? You may submit feedback to the group or > website and I will track issues and ensure they are incorporated. > > Arthur > > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > p: pytex2010test > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Brad Allen wrote: >> >> Good catch; thanks. >> >> I'm also realizing we forgot to ask a question about t-shirt sizes. >> >> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Jon Nials wrote: >> > Questions for everyone section: >> > >> > You guys are forgetting professional sysadmins. ?Please don't forget >> > that is where a lot of this stuff is driven from. ?We often don't >> > spend enough time to really consider ourselves "developers", but we >> > are a heck of a lot more than amateurs.... >> > >> > -Jon >> > >> > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Arthur Aguirre >> > wrote: >> >> I agree; as previously mentioned going to give this some attention >> >> today. >> >> >> >> Arthur >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Brad Allen >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Rather than send out separate surveys for different groups, I think >> >>> it'll be better to keep it simple with one survey. >> >>> >> >>> Please take a look and let me know what you think. I would like to get >> >>> this survey sent out soon, so we need your feedback right away. >> >>> >> >>> http://pytexas.org/SurveyQuestions2010 >> >>> >> >>> Thanks! >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Texas mailing list >> >>> Texas at python.org >> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Texas mailing list >> >> Texas at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas >> >> >> >> >> > > > From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Sat May 22 17:53:04 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 10:53:04 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sure, not a problem. Yes, we have an option of including a logo. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Brad Allen wrote: > Excellent! Thanks Arthur. > > I just went through the survey; it probably took about one minute. > > I am starting to think the introductory text should not be within the > tutorial, but in the place where the tutorial is advertised. > > Today we have a DFW Python user group meeting, and I'll ask everyone > to go through the survey and let me know what they think. > > It would be nice if the survey showed the PyTexas logo on each screen. > Does SurveyMonkey allow you to customize the background of the survey? > > On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I've made best attempts to incorporate everyone's feedback and structure > the > > survey with some best practices in-place. It is currently in test mode > so > > has a password associated with it. Once we finalize any outstanding > issues > > and/or additions we can remove the password and consider this a live > survey > > and can distribute the link. You may submit feedback to the group or > > website and I will track issues and ensure they are incorporated. > > > > Arthur > > > > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > > p: pytex2010test > > > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Brad Allen > wrote: > >> > >> Good catch; thanks. > >> > >> I'm also realizing we forgot to ask a question about t-shirt sizes. > >> > >> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Jon Nials wrote: > >> > Questions for everyone section: > >> > > >> > You guys are forgetting professional sysadmins. Please don't forget > >> > that is where a lot of this stuff is driven from. We often don't > >> > spend enough time to really consider ourselves "developers", but we > >> > are a heck of a lot more than amateurs.... > >> > > >> > -Jon > >> > > >> > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Arthur Aguirre > >> > wrote: > >> >> I agree; as previously mentioned going to give this some attention > >> >> today. > >> >> > >> >> Arthur > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Brad Allen > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Rather than send out separate surveys for different groups, I think > >> >>> it'll be better to keep it simple with one survey. > >> >>> > >> >>> Please take a look and let me know what you think. I would like to > get > >> >>> this survey sent out soon, so we need your feedback right away. > >> >>> > >> >>> http://pytexas.org/SurveyQuestions2010 > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks! > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> Texas mailing list > >> >>> Texas at python.org > >> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Texas mailing list > >> >> Texas at python.org > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Sun May 23 16:11:21 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 09:11:21 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided some useful feedback on the survey. The part of the survey which deals with interests should not be a ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest level of 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). Here are some questions to add: Is there a Python user group in your area? Yes, I attend regularly Yes, I attend irregularly Yes, but I have never attended No, but I would be willing to help organize one No, but I would like to have one No, and I would not attend one What is the nearest major city to where you live? Dallas Fort Worth Houston Austin San Antonio Waco Corpus Christi Other (write in) What is your zip code? (should be optional) From bradallen137 at gmail.com Sun May 23 20:35:33 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 13:35:33 -0500 Subject: [Texas] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" Message-ID: Kat from the DFW Python group has come up with this excellent design for the PyTexas 2010 t-shirt. The plan is to make it a single-sided white t-shirt, with the image done in black ink. http://pytexas.org/GraphicDesigns This is still a draft, but the design will be finalized by tomorrow morning. This is excellent work, and I'm doubly thankful to Kat for delivering on such short notice. I asked for it on Friday night, we voted on the sketch at the DFW Python meeting on Satuday, and she had the image created by midnight! Thanks so much Kat!!! From bradallen137 at gmail.com Mon May 24 00:34:07 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 17:34:07 -0500 Subject: [Texas] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ok, Kat has sent a new version, which I've uploaded to the same wiki page. I think this will be the final version. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Kat from the DFW Python group has come up with this excellent design > for the PyTexas 2010 t-shirt. The plan is to make it a single-sided > white t-shirt, with the image done in black ink. > > http://pytexas.org/GraphicDesigns > > This is still a draft, but the design will be finalized by tomorrow morning. > > This is excellent work, and I'm doubly thankful to Kat for delivering > on such short notice. I asked for it on Friday night, we voted on the > sketch at the DFW Python meeting on Satuday, and she had the image > created by midnight! > > Thanks so much Kat!!! > From sfreader at sbcglobal.net Mon May 24 02:13:32 2010 From: sfreader at sbcglobal.net (Ralph Green) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:13:32 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [dfwPython] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1274660012.8699.0.camel@belinda> I hope not On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 17:34 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > Ok, Kat has sent a new version, which I've uploaded to the same wiki > page. I think this will be the final version. From bradallen137 at gmail.com Mon May 24 02:26:01 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:26:01 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [dfwPython] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: <1274660012.8699.0.camel@belinda> References: <1274660012.8699.0.camel@belinda> Message-ID: Really, why? Do you have any edits to recommend? On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ralph Green wrote: > I hope not > > On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 17:34 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: >> Ok, Kat has sent a new version, which I've uploaded to the same wiki >> page. I think this will be the final version. > > > From sfreader at sbcglobal.net Mon May 24 02:32:04 2010 From: sfreader at sbcglobal.net (Ralph Green) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:32:04 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [dfwPython] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: References: <1274660012.8699.0.camel@belinda> Message-ID: <1274661124.8699.2.camel@belinda> Brad, You went on irc to ask for comments and there have been 2 people comment there. The Latin is poorly chosen and should be changed. On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 19:26 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > Really, why? Do you have any edits to recommend? > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ralph Green wrote: > > I hope not > > > > On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 17:34 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > >> Ok, Kat has sent a new version, which I've uploaded to the same wiki > >> page. I think this will be the final version. > > > > > > From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Mon May 24 02:38:55 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:38:55 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds good. This should be updated sometime tomorrow and ready for another round of review. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen wrote: > During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided some > useful feedback on the survey. > > The part of the survey which deals with interests should not be a > ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest level of > 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). > > Here are some questions to add: > > Is there a Python user group in your area? > > Yes, I attend regularly > Yes, I attend irregularly > Yes, but I have never attended > No, but I would be willing to help organize one > No, but I would like to have one > No, and I would not attend one > > What is the nearest major city to where you live? > > Dallas > Fort Worth > Houston > Austin > San Antonio > Waco > Corpus Christi > Other (write in) > > What is your zip code? (should be optional) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Mon May 24 03:12:21 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:12:21 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [dfwPython] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: References: <1274660012.8699.0.camel@belinda> <1274661124.8699.2.camel@belinda> Message-ID: Ralph has explained to me that Texicanus sounds like it is derived from "texican" which has sometimes been used in a derogatory way. He has suggested that we could replace "Texicanus" with "Texana" and nobody would take that the wrong way. Could you make that change, Kat? On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Kat M. wrote: > Ralph, > It's not even latin, its a parody of latin - its meant to be a light-hearted > 'impression' of latin - no one ever meant for anyone to translate it...? I > feel like you've missed the point, i.e. it never really had one... ; ) > > Kat > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Ralph Green wrote: >> >> Brad, >> ?You went on irc to ask for comments and there have been 2 people >> comment there. ?The Latin is poorly chosen and should be changed. >> >> On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 19:26 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: >> > Really, why? Do you have any edits to recommend? >> > >> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ralph Green >> > wrote: >> > > I hope not >> > > >> > > On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 17:34 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: >> > >> Ok, Kat has sent a new version, which I've uploaded to the same wiki >> > >> page. I think this will be the final version. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > From sfreader at sbcglobal.net Mon May 24 03:32:41 2010 From: sfreader at sbcglobal.net (Ralph Green) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:32:41 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [dfwPython] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: References: <1274660012.8699.0.camel@belinda> <1274661124.8699.2.camel@belinda> Message-ID: <1274664761.10844.5.camel@belinda> Howdy, I like the symmetry better the second way, but it is a minor point. If you like the first way better, I will go along with that. Texana is usually at the end, because in real biology, you specify major and go down to minor differentiating groups. So, if we want to be most accurate, we have to decide which is the major group we are in and which trait divides it. I probably agree Nerdus Pythonicus Texana is what you come up with there. Ralph On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 20:22 -0500, Kat M. wrote: > Well, at least that won't have the word 'anus' in it... ; ) > > I checked online and usually 'Texana' is at the end of a genus' name - > I tried both and it seemed better at the end like: > > Nerdus Pythonicus Texana > > instead of Nerdus Texana Pythonicus > > Does anyone mind if I do it the first way? > > K > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Brad Allen > wrote: > Ralph has explained to me that Texicanus sounds like it is > derived > from "texican" which has sometimes been used in a derogatory > way. He > has suggested that we could replace "Texicanus" with "Texana" > and > nobody would take that the wrong way. > > Could you make that change, Kat? > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Kat M. > wrote: > > > > Ralph, > > It's not even latin, its a parody of latin - its meant to be > a light-hearted > > 'impression' of latin - no one ever meant for anyone to > translate it... I > > feel like you've missed the point, i.e. it never really had > one... ; ) > > > > Kat > > > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Ralph Green > wrote: > >> > >> Brad, > >> You went on irc to ask for comments and there have been 2 > people > >> comment there. The Latin is poorly chosen and should be > changed. > >> > >> On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 19:26 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > >> > Really, why? Do you have any edits to recommend? > >> > > >> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ralph Green > > >> > wrote: > >> > > I hope not > >> > > > >> > > On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 17:34 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > >> > >> Ok, Kat has sent a new version, which I've uploaded to > the same wiki > >> > >> page. I think this will be the final version. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > From sfreader at sbcglobal.net Mon May 24 05:08:49 2010 From: sfreader at sbcglobal.net (Ralph Green) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 22:08:49 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [dfwPython] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: References: <1274660012.8699.0.camel@belinda> <1274661124.8699.2.camel@belinda> <1274664761.10844.5.camel@belinda> Message-ID: <1274670529.13213.0.camel@belinda> Thank you Kat. I think it look very nice. On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 20:35 -0500, Kat M. wrote: > And there you go... glad this worked out! : ) > > Kat > > From bradallen137 at gmail.com Mon May 24 05:13:17 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 22:13:17 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [dfwPython] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: References: <1274660012.8699.0.camel@belinda> <1274661124.8699.2.camel@belinda> <1274664761.10844.5.camel@belinda> Message-ID: Thanks, Kat. I've sent those new versions to the prospective t-shirt manufacturer, and tomorrow I'll upload them to the wiki and post a blog entry about it. When Nerdus Pythonicus Texana makes its splash on Planet Python, the lure of this primo swag item will inflame the passions of our kindred spirits...hm...where am I going with this? Anyway, it'll be a great promotion for the conference. Everybody will want to come to PyTexas to get the t-shirt! :-) On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Kat M. wrote: > And there you go... glad this worked out!? : ) > > Kat > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Ralph Green wrote: >> >> Howdy, >> ?I like the symmetry better the second way, but it is a minor point. >> If you like the first way better, I will go along with that. >> ?Texana is usually at the end, because in real biology, you specify >> major and go down to minor differentiating groups. ?So, if we want to be >> most accurate, we have to decide which is the major group we are in and >> which trait divides it. ?I probably agree Nerdus Pythonicus Texana is >> what you come up with there. >> Ralph >> >> >> On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 20:22 -0500, Kat M. wrote: >> > Well, at least that won't have the word 'anus' in it... ?; ) >> > >> > I checked online and usually 'Texana' is at the end of a genus' name - >> > I tried both and it seemed better at the end like: >> > >> > Nerdus Pythonicus Texana >> > >> > instead of Nerdus Texana Pythonicus >> > >> > Does anyone mind if I do it the first way? >> > >> > K >> > >> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Brad Allen >> > wrote: >> > ? ? ? ? Ralph has explained to me that Texicanus sounds like it is >> > ? ? ? ? derived >> > ? ? ? ? from "texican" which has sometimes been used in a derogatory >> > ? ? ? ? way. He >> > ? ? ? ? has suggested that we could replace "Texicanus" with "Texana" >> > ? ? ? ? and >> > ? ? ? ? nobody would take that the wrong way. >> > >> > ? ? ? ? Could you make that change, Kat? >> > >> > ? ? ? ? On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Kat M. >> > ? ? ? ? wrote: >> > >> > >> > ? ? ? ? > Ralph, >> > ? ? ? ? > It's not even latin, its a parody of latin - its meant to be >> > ? ? ? ? a light-hearted >> > ? ? ? ? > 'impression' of latin - no one ever meant for anyone to >> > ? ? ? ? translate it... ?I >> > ? ? ? ? > feel like you've missed the point, i.e. it never really had >> > ? ? ? ? one... ; ) >> > ? ? ? ? > >> > ? ? ? ? > Kat >> > ? ? ? ? > >> > ? ? ? ? > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Ralph Green >> > ? ? ? ? wrote: >> > ? ? ? ? >> >> > ? ? ? ? >> Brad, >> > ? ? ? ? >> ?You went on irc to ask for comments and there have been 2 >> > ? ? ? ? people >> > ? ? ? ? >> comment there. ?The Latin is poorly chosen and should be >> > ? ? ? ? changed. >> > ? ? ? ? >> >> > ? ? ? ? >> On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 19:26 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: >> > ? ? ? ? >> > Really, why? Do you have any edits to recommend? >> > ? ? ? ? >> > >> > ? ? ? ? >> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ralph Green >> > ? ? ? ? >> > ? ? ? ? >> > wrote: >> > ? ? ? ? >> > > I hope not >> > ? ? ? ? >> > > >> > ? ? ? ? >> > > On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 17:34 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: >> > ? ? ? ? >> > >> Ok, Kat has sent a new version, which I've uploaded to >> > ? ? ? ? the same wiki >> > ? ? ? ? >> > >> page. I think this will be the final version. >> > ? ? ? ? >> > > >> > ? ? ? ? >> > > >> > ? ? ? ? >> > > >> > ? ? ? ? >> >> > ? ? ? ? > >> > ? ? ? ? > >> > >> > >> > > From danny.tamez at canonical.com Mon May 24 16:08:39 2010 From: danny.tamez at canonical.com (Danny Tamez) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:08:39 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [dfwPython] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201005240908.40190.danny.tamez@canonical.com> Are you serious? I don't really care whether Texicanus is used or not but the explanation given for changing it is really far fetched. But anyone that would be offended by Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus is either racist, ignorant or both. My 2 cents. Danny - On Sunday, May 23, 2010 08:12:21 pm Brad Allen wrote: > Ralph has explained to me that Texicanus sounds like it is derived > from "texican" which has sometimes been used in a derogatory way. He > has suggested that we could replace "Texicanus" with "Texana" and > nobody would take that the wrong way. > > Could you make that change, Kat? > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Kat M. wrote: > > Ralph, > > It's not even latin, its a parody of latin - its meant to be a > > light-hearted 'impression' of latin - no one ever meant for anyone to > > translate it... I feel like you've missed the point, i.e. it never > > really had one... ; ) > > > > Kat > > > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Ralph Green wrote: > >> Brad, > >> You went on irc to ask for comments and there have been 2 people > >> comment there. The Latin is poorly chosen and should be changed. > >> > >> On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 19:26 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > >> > Really, why? Do you have any edits to recommend? > >> > > >> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ralph Green > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> > > I hope not > >> > > > >> > > On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 17:34 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > >> > >> Ok, Kat has sent a new version, which I've uploaded to the same > >> > >> wiki page. I think this will be the final version. > > _______________________________________________ > dfwPython mailing list > dfwPython at dfwpython.org > http://www.dfwpython.org/mailman/listinfo/dfwpython -- Danny Tamez Canonical Ltd. +1 214.542.6153 (mob) +1 972.463.9727 (home) danny.tamez at canonical.com IRC nick: zematynnad Ubuntu - Linux for human beings | www.ubuntu.com | www.canonical.com From kat at flexiblecreations.com Mon May 24 02:56:07 2010 From: kat at flexiblecreations.com (Kat M.) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:56:07 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [dfwPython] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: <1274661124.8699.2.camel@belinda> References: <1274660012.8699.0.camel@belinda> <1274661124.8699.2.camel@belinda> Message-ID: Ralph, It's not even latin, its a parody of latin - its meant to be a light-hearted 'impression' of latin - no one ever meant for anyone to translate it... I feel like you've missed the point, i.e. it never really had one... ; ) Kat On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Ralph Green wrote: > Brad, > You went on irc to ask for comments and there have been 2 people > comment there. The Latin is poorly chosen and should be changed. > > On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 19:26 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > > Really, why? Do you have any edits to recommend? > > > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ralph Green > wrote: > > > I hope not > > > > > > On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 17:34 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > > >> Ok, Kat has sent a new version, which I've uploaded to the same wiki > > >> page. I think this will be the final version. > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kat at flexiblecreations.com Mon May 24 03:22:56 2010 From: kat at flexiblecreations.com (Kat M.) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:22:56 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [dfwPython] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: References: <1274660012.8699.0.camel@belinda> <1274661124.8699.2.camel@belinda> Message-ID: Well, at least that won't have the word 'anus' in it... ; ) I checked online and usually 'Texana' is at the end of a genus' name - I tried both and it seemed better at the end like: Nerdus Pythonicus Texana instead of Nerdus Texana Pythonicus Does anyone mind if I do it the first way? K On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Ralph has explained to me that Texicanus sounds like it is derived > from "texican" which has sometimes been used in a derogatory way. He > has suggested that we could replace "Texicanus" with "Texana" and > nobody would take that the wrong way. > > Could you make that change, Kat? > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Kat M. wrote: > > Ralph, > > It's not even latin, its a parody of latin - its meant to be a > light-hearted > > 'impression' of latin - no one ever meant for anyone to translate it... > I > > feel like you've missed the point, i.e. it never really had one... ; ) > > > > Kat > > > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Ralph Green > wrote: > >> > >> Brad, > >> You went on irc to ask for comments and there have been 2 people > >> comment there. The Latin is poorly chosen and should be changed. > >> > >> On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 19:26 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > >> > Really, why? Do you have any edits to recommend? > >> > > >> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ralph Green > >> > wrote: > >> > > I hope not > >> > > > >> > > On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 17:34 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > >> > >> Ok, Kat has sent a new version, which I've uploaded to the same > wiki > >> > >> page. I think this will be the final version. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kat at flexiblecreations.com Mon May 24 03:35:52 2010 From: kat at flexiblecreations.com (Kat M.) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:35:52 -0500 Subject: [Texas] [dfwPython] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: <1274664761.10844.5.camel@belinda> References: <1274660012.8699.0.camel@belinda> <1274661124.8699.2.camel@belinda> <1274664761.10844.5.camel@belinda> Message-ID: And there you go... glad this worked out! : ) Kat On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Ralph Green wrote: > Howdy, > I like the symmetry better the second way, but it is a minor point. > If you like the first way better, I will go along with that. > Texana is usually at the end, because in real biology, you specify > major and go down to minor differentiating groups. So, if we want to be > most accurate, we have to decide which is the major group we are in and > which trait divides it. I probably agree Nerdus Pythonicus Texana is > what you come up with there. > Ralph > > > On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 20:22 -0500, Kat M. wrote: > > Well, at least that won't have the word 'anus' in it... ; ) > > > > I checked online and usually 'Texana' is at the end of a genus' name - > > I tried both and it seemed better at the end like: > > > > Nerdus Pythonicus Texana > > > > instead of Nerdus Texana Pythonicus > > > > Does anyone mind if I do it the first way? > > > > K > > > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Brad Allen > > wrote: > > Ralph has explained to me that Texicanus sounds like it is > > derived > > from "texican" which has sometimes been used in a derogatory > > way. He > > has suggested that we could replace "Texicanus" with "Texana" > > and > > nobody would take that the wrong way. > > > > Could you make that change, Kat? > > > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Kat M. > > wrote: > > > > > > > Ralph, > > > It's not even latin, its a parody of latin - its meant to be > > a light-hearted > > > 'impression' of latin - no one ever meant for anyone to > > translate it... I > > > feel like you've missed the point, i.e. it never really had > > one... ; ) > > > > > > Kat > > > > > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Ralph Green > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Brad, > > >> You went on irc to ask for comments and there have been 2 > > people > > >> comment there. The Latin is poorly chosen and should be > > changed. > > >> > > >> On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 19:26 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > > >> > Really, why? Do you have any edits to recommend? > > >> > > > >> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ralph Green > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > I hope not > > >> > > > > >> > > On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 17:34 -0500, Brad Allen wrote: > > >> > >> Ok, Kat has sent a new version, which I've uploaded to > > the same wiki > > >> > >> page. I think this will be the final version. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: py-texas3-2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1125301 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: py-texas3-2.png Type: image/png Size: 312826 bytes Desc: not available URL: From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Tue May 25 03:31:15 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 20:31:15 -0500 Subject: [Texas] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kat, To include the logo in the survey we need a image that is 50KB or less.. if feasible please send me the file directly. Thanks. Arthur aguirre.arthur at gmail.com On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Kat from the DFW Python group has come up with this excellent design > for the PyTexas 2010 t-shirt. The plan is to make it a single-sided > white t-shirt, with the image done in black ink. > > http://pytexas.org/GraphicDesigns > > This is still a draft, but the design will be finalized by tomorrow > morning. > > This is excellent work, and I'm doubly thankful to Kat for delivering > on such short notice. I asked for it on Friday night, we voted on the > sketch at the DFW Python meeting on Satuday, and she had the image > created by midnight! > > Thanks so much Kat!!! > _______________________________________________ > Texas mailing list > Texas at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Tue May 25 03:39:48 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 20:39:48 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The survey has the additional requests incorporated, feel free to review. As well, there is now an associated report for tabulated responses. Once we get the right logo size we should be close to having this ready to deploy. Arthur url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 p: pytex2010test Real time results (public) On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > Sounds good. This should be updated sometime tomorrow and ready for > another round of review. > > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen wrote: > >> During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided some >> useful feedback on the survey. >> >> The part of the survey which deals with interests should not be a >> ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest level of >> 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). >> >> Here are some questions to add: >> >> Is there a Python user group in your area? >> >> Yes, I attend regularly >> Yes, I attend irregularly >> Yes, but I have never attended >> No, but I would be willing to help organize one >> No, but I would like to have one >> No, and I would not attend one >> >> What is the nearest major city to where you live? >> >> Dallas >> Fort Worth >> Houston >> Austin >> San Antonio >> Waco >> Corpus Christi >> Other (write in) >> >> What is your zip code? (should be optional) >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jnials at gmail.com Tue May 25 05:10:18 2010 From: jnials at gmail.com (Jon Nials) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 22:10:18 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: New survey is much better. Thanks for your work on this Arthur. -Jon On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > The survey has the additional requests incorporated, feel free to review. > As well, there is now an associated report for tabulated responses.? Once we > get the right logo size we should be close to having this ready to deploy. > > Arthur > > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > > p: pytex2010test > Real time results (public) > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: >> >> Sounds good.? This should be updated sometime tomorrow and ready for >> another round of review. >> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen >> wrote: >>> >>> During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided some >>> useful feedback on the survey. >>> >>> The part of the survey which deals with interests should not be a >>> ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest level of >>> 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). >>> >>> Here are some questions to add: >>> >>> Is there a Python user group in your area? >>> >>> ? ?Yes, I attend regularly >>> ? ?Yes, I attend irregularly >>> ? ?Yes, but I have never attended >>> ? ?No, but I would be willing to help organize one >>> ? ?No, but I would like to have one >>> ? ?No, and I would not attend one >>> >>> What is the nearest major city to where you live? >>> >>> ?Dallas >>> ?Fort Worth >>> ?Houston >>> ?Austin >>> ?San Antonio >>> ?Waco >>> ?Corpus Christi >>> ?Other (write in) >>> >>> What is your zip code? ?(should be optional) >> > > From bradallen137 at gmail.com Tue May 25 13:57:39 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 06:57:39 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: After reviewing the survey responses, I realized that the answers "Which of the following best describe you" need further tweaking. We're leaving out the professional developers who don't use Python in their job. Also, there are lots of categories not included, so we should have an 'other' option. Here's a different suggestion of choices for that question: * University Student * High School Student * Faculty * Professional Developer (using Python at work) * Professional Developer (not using Python at work) * System Administrator * Retired * Other I'm not sure that we need to list "Amateur Python developer" because that really covers anyone who writes Python code but is not a professional developer. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > The survey has the additional requests incorporated, feel free to review. > As well, there is now an associated report for tabulated responses.? Once we > get the right logo size we should be close to having this ready to deploy. > > Arthur > > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > > p: pytex2010test > Real time results (public) > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: >> >> Sounds good.? This should be updated sometime tomorrow and ready for >> another round of review. >> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen >> wrote: >>> >>> During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided some >>> useful feedback on the survey. >>> >>> The part of the survey which deals with interests should not be a >>> ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest level of >>> 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). >>> >>> Here are some questions to add: >>> >>> Is there a Python user group in your area? >>> >>> ? ?Yes, I attend regularly >>> ? ?Yes, I attend irregularly >>> ? ?Yes, but I have never attended >>> ? ?No, but I would be willing to help organize one >>> ? ?No, but I would like to have one >>> ? ?No, and I would not attend one >>> >>> What is the nearest major city to where you live? >>> >>> ?Dallas >>> ?Fort Worth >>> ?Houston >>> ?Austin >>> ?San Antonio >>> ?Waco >>> ?Corpus Christi >>> ?Other (write in) >>> >>> What is your zip code? ?(should be optional) >> > > From bradallen137 at gmail.com Tue May 25 14:01:43 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 07:01:43 -0500 Subject: [Texas] t-shirt design "Nerdus Texicanus Pythonicus" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The PyTexas logo in the upper right corner of the wiki is only 12k; maybe you were thinking of putting the t-shirt image on the survey? I'm not sure that's a good idea...probably above the survey questions it would make more sense just to have the basic logo along with the name "PyTexas 2010". On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > Kat, > > To include the logo in the survey we need a image that is 50KB or less.. if > feasible please send me the file directly. > > Thanks. > Arthur > > aguirre.arthur at gmail.com > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Brad Allen wrote: >> >> Kat from the DFW Python group has come up with this excellent design >> for the PyTexas 2010 t-shirt. The plan is to make it a single-sided >> white t-shirt, with the image done in black ink. >> >> http://pytexas.org/GraphicDesigns >> >> This is still a draft, but the design will be finalized by tomorrow >> morning. >> >> This is excellent work, and I'm doubly thankful to Kat for delivering >> on such short notice. I asked for it on Friday night, we voted on the >> sketch at the DFW Python meeting on Satuday, and she had the image >> created by midnight! >> >> Thanks so much Kat!!! >> _______________________________________________ >> Texas mailing list >> Texas at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/texas > > From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Tue May 25 14:50:45 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 07:50:45 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK, not a problem. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Brad Allen wrote: > After reviewing the survey responses, I realized that the answers > "Which of the following best describe you" need further tweaking. > We're leaving out the professional developers who don't use Python in > their job. Also, there are lots of categories not included, so we > should have an 'other' option. > > Here's a different suggestion of choices for that question: > * University Student > * High School Student > * Faculty > * Professional Developer (using Python at work) > * Professional Developer (not using Python at work) > * System Administrator > * Retired > * Other > > I'm not sure that we need to list "Amateur Python developer" because > that really covers anyone who writes Python code but is not a > professional developer. > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: > > The survey has the additional requests incorporated, feel free to review. > > As well, there is now an associated report for tabulated responses. Once > we > > get the right logo size we should be close to having this ready to > deploy. > > > > Arthur > > > > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > > > > p: pytex2010test > > Real time results (public) > > > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Arthur Aguirre < > aguirre.arthur at gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Sounds good. This should be updated sometime tomorrow and ready for > >> another round of review. > >> > >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided some > >>> useful feedback on the survey. > >>> > >>> The part of the survey which deals with interests should not be a > >>> ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest level of > >>> 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). > >>> > >>> Here are some questions to add: > >>> > >>> Is there a Python user group in your area? > >>> > >>> Yes, I attend regularly > >>> Yes, I attend irregularly > >>> Yes, but I have never attended > >>> No, but I would be willing to help organize one > >>> No, but I would like to have one > >>> No, and I would not attend one > >>> > >>> What is the nearest major city to where you live? > >>> > >>> Dallas > >>> Fort Worth > >>> Houston > >>> Austin > >>> San Antonio > >>> Waco > >>> Corpus Christi > >>> Other (write in) > >>> > >>> What is your zip code? (should be optional) > >> > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Tue May 25 22:20:26 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 15:20:26 -0500 Subject: [Texas] blog entry PyTexas 2010 t-shirt Message-ID: The blog entry about the t-shirt has appeared on Planet Python From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Wed May 26 01:36:22 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 18:36:22 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Current feedback has been incorporated. Took a little longer since the logo caused some unexpected text size changes.. but this survey should be in fairly good shape. Arthur url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 p: pytex2010test Real time results (public) On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > OK, not a problem. > > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Brad Allen wrote: > >> After reviewing the survey responses, I realized that the answers >> "Which of the following best describe you" need further tweaking. >> We're leaving out the professional developers who don't use Python in >> their job. Also, there are lots of categories not included, so we >> should have an 'other' option. >> >> Here's a different suggestion of choices for that question: >> * University Student >> * High School Student >> * Faculty >> * Professional Developer (using Python at work) >> * Professional Developer (not using Python at work) >> * System Administrator >> * Retired >> * Other >> >> I'm not sure that we need to list "Amateur Python developer" because >> that really covers anyone who writes Python code but is not a >> professional developer. >> >> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> wrote: >> > The survey has the additional requests incorporated, feel free to >> review. >> > As well, there is now an associated report for tabulated responses. >> Once we >> > get the right logo size we should be close to having this ready to >> deploy. >> > >> > Arthur >> > >> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 >> > >> > p: pytex2010test >> > Real time results (public) >> > >> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Arthur Aguirre < >> aguirre.arthur at gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Sounds good. This should be updated sometime tomorrow and ready for >> >> another round of review. >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided some >> >>> useful feedback on the survey. >> >>> >> >>> The part of the survey which deals with interests should not be a >> >>> ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest level of >> >>> 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). >> >>> >> >>> Here are some questions to add: >> >>> >> >>> Is there a Python user group in your area? >> >>> >> >>> Yes, I attend regularly >> >>> Yes, I attend irregularly >> >>> Yes, but I have never attended >> >>> No, but I would be willing to help organize one >> >>> No, but I would like to have one >> >>> No, and I would not attend one >> >>> >> >>> What is the nearest major city to where you live? >> >>> >> >>> Dallas >> >>> Fort Worth >> >>> Houston >> >>> Austin >> >>> San Antonio >> >>> Waco >> >>> Corpus Christi >> >>> Other (write in) >> >>> >> >>> What is your zip code? (should be optional) >> >> >> > >> > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Wed May 26 02:56:12 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 19:56:12 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks. I just stepped through the survey, and have a bit of feedback. The banner at the top is a bit overlarge. Can you specify a smaller display size for the image, or do we need to send you a smaller version? It would be nice to have the words PyTexas 2010 next to the logo on the same banner. The part about the "What category of tutorial are you interested in" won't allow you to specify the same rating for any one category. The button columns are linked like radio buttons, which should not be the case. Right now it is impossible to rate each of the categories of tutorial interest. It should be changed so the radio button behavior only links horizonontally, not veritcally. For example a person should be able rate "Not Interested" in every category if they want. Thanks again, Arthur. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > Current feedback has been incorporated.? Took a little longer since the logo > caused some unexpected text size changes.. but this survey should be in > fairly good shape. > > Arthur > > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > > > p: pytex2010test > Real time results (public) > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: >> >> OK, not a problem. >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Brad Allen >> wrote: >>> >>> After reviewing the survey responses, I realized that the answers >>> "Which of the following best describe you" need further tweaking. >>> We're leaving out the professional developers who don't use Python in >>> their job. Also, there are lots of categories not included, so we >>> should have an 'other' option. >>> >>> Here's a different suggestion of choices for that question: >>> * University Student >>> * High School Student >>> * Faculty >>> * Professional Developer (using Python at work) >>> * Professional Developer (not using Python at work) >>> * System Administrator >>> * Retired >>> * Other >>> >>> I'm not sure that we need to list "Amateur Python developer" because >>> that really covers anyone who writes Python code but is not a >>> professional developer. >>> >>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Arthur Aguirre >>> wrote: >>> > The survey has the additional requests incorporated, feel free to >>> > review. >>> > As well, there is now an associated report for tabulated responses. >>> > Once we >>> > get the right logo size we should be close to having this ready to >>> > deploy. >>> > >>> > Arthur >>> > >>> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 >>> > >>> > p: pytex2010test >>> > Real time results (public) >>> > >>> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Arthur Aguirre >>> > >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Sounds good.? This should be updated sometime tomorrow and ready for >>> >> another round of review. >>> >> >>> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided some >>> >>> useful feedback on the survey. >>> >>> >>> >>> The part of the survey which deals with interests should not be a >>> >>> ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest level of >>> >>> 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). >>> >>> >>> >>> Here are some questions to add: >>> >>> >>> >>> Is there a Python user group in your area? >>> >>> >>> >>> ? ?Yes, I attend regularly >>> >>> ? ?Yes, I attend irregularly >>> >>> ? ?Yes, but I have never attended >>> >>> ? ?No, but I would be willing to help organize one >>> >>> ? ?No, but I would like to have one >>> >>> ? ?No, and I would not attend one >>> >>> >>> >>> What is the nearest major city to where you live? >>> >>> >>> >>> ?Dallas >>> >>> ?Fort Worth >>> >>> ?Houston >>> >>> ?Austin >>> >>> ?San Antonio >>> >>> ?Waco >>> >>> ?Corpus Christi >>> >>> ?Other (write in) >>> >>> >>> >>> What is your zip code? ?(should be optional) >>> >> >>> > >>> > >> > > From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Wed May 26 02:59:47 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 19:59:47 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alright, must have enforced something incorrectly. In terms of the logo sizing and addition, I'll see what can be done. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Thanks. I just stepped through the survey, and have a bit of feedback. > > The banner at the top is a bit overlarge. Can you specify a smaller > display size for the image, or do we need to send you a smaller > version? > > It would be nice to have the words PyTexas 2010 next to the logo on > the same banner. > > The part about the "What category of tutorial are you interested in" > won't allow you to specify the same rating for any one category. The > button columns are linked like radio buttons, which should not be the > case. > > Right now it is impossible to rate each of the categories of tutorial > interest. > > It should be changed so the radio button behavior only links > horizonontally, not veritcally. For example a person should be able > rate "Not Interested" in every category if they want. > > Thanks again, Arthur. > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: > > Current feedback has been incorporated. Took a little longer since the > logo > > caused some unexpected text size changes.. but this survey should be in > > fairly good shape. > > > > Arthur > > > > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > > > > > > p: pytex2010test > > Real time results (public) > > > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Arthur Aguirre < > aguirre.arthur at gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> OK, not a problem. > >> > >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Brad Allen > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> After reviewing the survey responses, I realized that the answers > >>> "Which of the following best describe you" need further tweaking. > >>> We're leaving out the professional developers who don't use Python in > >>> their job. Also, there are lots of categories not included, so we > >>> should have an 'other' option. > >>> > >>> Here's a different suggestion of choices for that question: > >>> * University Student > >>> * High School Student > >>> * Faculty > >>> * Professional Developer (using Python at work) > >>> * Professional Developer (not using Python at work) > >>> * System Administrator > >>> * Retired > >>> * Other > >>> > >>> I'm not sure that we need to list "Amateur Python developer" because > >>> that really covers anyone who writes Python code but is not a > >>> professional developer. > >>> > >>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >>> wrote: > >>> > The survey has the additional requests incorporated, feel free to > >>> > review. > >>> > As well, there is now an associated report for tabulated responses. > >>> > Once we > >>> > get the right logo size we should be close to having this ready to > >>> > deploy. > >>> > > >>> > Arthur > >>> > > >>> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > >>> > > >>> > p: pytex2010test > >>> > Real time results (public) > >>> > > >>> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >>> > > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> Sounds good. This should be updated sometime tomorrow and ready for > >>> >> another round of review. > >>> >> > >>> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen > > >>> >> wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided some > >>> >>> useful feedback on the survey. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> The part of the survey which deals with interests should not be a > >>> >>> ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest level > of > >>> >>> 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Here are some questions to add: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Is there a Python user group in your area? > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Yes, I attend regularly > >>> >>> Yes, I attend irregularly > >>> >>> Yes, but I have never attended > >>> >>> No, but I would be willing to help organize one > >>> >>> No, but I would like to have one > >>> >>> No, and I would not attend one > >>> >>> > >>> >>> What is the nearest major city to where you live? > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Dallas > >>> >>> Fort Worth > >>> >>> Houston > >>> >>> Austin > >>> >>> San Antonio > >>> >>> Waco > >>> >>> Corpus Christi > >>> >>> Other (write in) > >>> >>> > >>> >>> What is your zip code? (should be optional) > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Wed May 26 03:31:27 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 20:31:27 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gave it a few more tweaks... though the banner editing capabilities are somewhat limited (at least for the subscription I have). url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 p: pytex2010test On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > Alright, must have enforced something incorrectly. In terms of the logo > sizing and addition, I'll see what can be done. > > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > >> Thanks. I just stepped through the survey, and have a bit of feedback. >> >> The banner at the top is a bit overlarge. Can you specify a smaller >> display size for the image, or do we need to send you a smaller >> version? >> >> It would be nice to have the words PyTexas 2010 next to the logo on >> the same banner. >> >> The part about the "What category of tutorial are you interested in" >> won't allow you to specify the same rating for any one category. The >> button columns are linked like radio buttons, which should not be the >> case. >> >> Right now it is impossible to rate each of the categories of tutorial >> interest. >> >> It should be changed so the radio button behavior only links >> horizonontally, not veritcally. For example a person should be able >> rate "Not Interested" in every category if they want. >> >> Thanks again, Arthur. >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> wrote: >> > Current feedback has been incorporated. Took a little longer since the >> logo >> > caused some unexpected text size changes.. but this survey should be in >> > fairly good shape. >> > >> > Arthur >> > >> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 >> > >> > >> > p: pytex2010test >> > Real time results (public) >> > >> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Arthur Aguirre < >> aguirre.arthur at gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> OK, not a problem. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Brad Allen >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> After reviewing the survey responses, I realized that the answers >> >>> "Which of the following best describe you" need further tweaking. >> >>> We're leaving out the professional developers who don't use Python in >> >>> their job. Also, there are lots of categories not included, so we >> >>> should have an 'other' option. >> >>> >> >>> Here's a different suggestion of choices for that question: >> >>> * University Student >> >>> * High School Student >> >>> * Faculty >> >>> * Professional Developer (using Python at work) >> >>> * Professional Developer (not using Python at work) >> >>> * System Administrator >> >>> * Retired >> >>> * Other >> >>> >> >>> I'm not sure that we need to list "Amateur Python developer" because >> >>> that really covers anyone who writes Python code but is not a >> >>> professional developer. >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > The survey has the additional requests incorporated, feel free to >> >>> > review. >> >>> > As well, there is now an associated report for tabulated responses. >> >>> > Once we >> >>> > get the right logo size we should be close to having this ready to >> >>> > deploy. >> >>> > >> >>> > Arthur >> >>> > >> >>> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 >> >>> > >> >>> > p: pytex2010test >> >>> > Real time results (public) >> >>> > >> >>> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> >>> > >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Sounds good. This should be updated sometime tomorrow and ready >> for >> >>> >> another round of review. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen < >> bradallen137 at gmail.com> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided some >> >>> >>> useful feedback on the survey. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> The part of the survey which deals with interests should not be a >> >>> >>> ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest level >> of >> >>> >>> 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Here are some questions to add: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Is there a Python user group in your area? >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Yes, I attend regularly >> >>> >>> Yes, I attend irregularly >> >>> >>> Yes, but I have never attended >> >>> >>> No, but I would be willing to help organize one >> >>> >>> No, but I would like to have one >> >>> >>> No, and I would not attend one >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> What is the nearest major city to where you live? >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Dallas >> >>> >>> Fort Worth >> >>> >>> Houston >> >>> >>> Austin >> >>> >>> San Antonio >> >>> >>> Waco >> >>> >>> Corpus Christi >> >>> >>> Other (write in) >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> What is your zip code? (should be optional) >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Wed May 26 04:03:37 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 21:03:37 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It looks good enough now, I think. Also I tested and found that the problem with the radio button vertical linking was resolved. I think we're good to go on this survey; it's time to open it to the public and get the word out about it! If you'll go ahead and clear the current data, then remove the password requirement, I'll work on the various announcements to send out over the next few days. Thanks again for your help on this, Arthur! On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > Gave it a few more tweaks... though the banner editing capabilities are > somewhat limited (at least for the subscription I have). > > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > p: pytex2010test > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: >> >> Alright, must have enforced something incorrectly.? In terms of the logo >> sizing and addition, I'll see what can be done. >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Brad Allen >> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks. I just stepped through the survey, and have a bit of feedback. >>> >>> The banner at the top is a bit overlarge. Can you specify a smaller >>> display size for the image, or do we need to send you a smaller >>> version? >>> >>> It would be nice to have the words PyTexas 2010 next to the logo on >>> the same banner. >>> >>> The part about the "What category of tutorial are you interested in" >>> won't allow you to specify the same rating for any one category. The >>> button columns are linked like radio buttons, which should not be the >>> case. >>> >>> Right now it is impossible to rate each of the categories of tutorial >>> interest. >>> >>> It should be changed so the radio button behavior only links >>> horizonontally, not veritcally. For example a person should be able >>> rate "Not Interested" in every category if they want. >>> >>> Thanks again, Arthur. >>> >>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Arthur Aguirre >>> wrote: >>> > Current feedback has been incorporated.? Took a little longer since the >>> > logo >>> > caused some unexpected text size changes.. but this survey should be in >>> > fairly good shape. >>> > >>> > Arthur >>> > >>> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 >>> > >>> > >>> > p: pytex2010test >>> > Real time results (public) >>> > >>> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Arthur Aguirre >>> > >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> OK, not a problem. >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Brad Allen >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> After reviewing the survey responses, I realized that the answers >>> >>> "Which of the following best describe you" need further tweaking. >>> >>> We're leaving out the professional developers who don't use Python in >>> >>> their job. Also, there are lots of categories not included, so we >>> >>> should have an 'other' option. >>> >>> >>> >>> Here's a different suggestion of choices for that question: >>> >>> * University Student >>> >>> * High School Student >>> >>> * Faculty >>> >>> * Professional Developer (using Python at work) >>> >>> * Professional Developer (not using Python at work) >>> >>> * System Administrator >>> >>> * Retired >>> >>> * Other >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm not sure that we need to list "Amateur Python developer" because >>> >>> that really covers anyone who writes Python code but is not a >>> >>> professional developer. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Arthur Aguirre >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > The survey has the additional requests incorporated, feel free to >>> >>> > review. >>> >>> > As well, there is now an associated report for tabulated responses. >>> >>> > Once we >>> >>> > get the right logo size we should be close to having this ready to >>> >>> > deploy. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Arthur >>> >>> > >>> >>> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 >>> >>> > >>> >>> > p: pytex2010test >>> >>> > Real time results (public) >>> >>> > >>> >>> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Arthur Aguirre >>> >>> > >>> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> Sounds good.? This should be updated sometime tomorrow and ready >>> >>> >> for >>> >>> >> another round of review. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided some >>> >>> >>> useful feedback on the survey. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The part of the survey which deals with interests should not be a >>> >>> >>> ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest >>> >>> >>> level of >>> >>> >>> 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Here are some questions to add: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Is there a Python user group in your area? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ? ?Yes, I attend regularly >>> >>> >>> ? ?Yes, I attend irregularly >>> >>> >>> ? ?Yes, but I have never attended >>> >>> >>> ? ?No, but I would be willing to help organize one >>> >>> >>> ? ?No, but I would like to have one >>> >>> >>> ? ?No, and I would not attend one >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> What is the nearest major city to where you live? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ?Dallas >>> >>> >>> ?Fort Worth >>> >>> >>> ?Houston >>> >>> >>> ?Austin >>> >>> >>> ?San Antonio >>> >>> >>> ?Waco >>> >>> >>> ?Corpus Christi >>> >>> >>> ?Other (write in) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> What is your zip code? ?(should be optional) >>> >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > >> > > From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Wed May 26 13:14:52 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 06:14:52 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The survey is live without restriction; as well the test data has been cleared out. Access to the survey is the same: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 Results page: http://www.surveymonkey.com/sr.aspx?sm=y_2bGUGjyJn9S3p2J1v0luoC16liVIRYiAzwnR3gwyPO8_3d On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > It looks good enough now, I think. Also I tested and found that the > problem with the radio button vertical linking was resolved. > > I think we're good to go on this survey; it's time to open it to the > public and get the word out about it! If you'll go ahead and clear > the current data, then remove the password requirement, I'll work on > the various announcements to send out over the next few days. > > Thanks again for your help on this, Arthur! > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: > > Gave it a few more tweaks... though the banner editing capabilities are > > somewhat limited (at least for the subscription I have). > > > > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > > p: pytex2010test > > > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Arthur Aguirre < > aguirre.arthur at gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Alright, must have enforced something incorrectly. In terms of the logo > >> sizing and addition, I'll see what can be done. > >> > >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Brad Allen > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Thanks. I just stepped through the survey, and have a bit of feedback. > >>> > >>> The banner at the top is a bit overlarge. Can you specify a smaller > >>> display size for the image, or do we need to send you a smaller > >>> version? > >>> > >>> It would be nice to have the words PyTexas 2010 next to the logo on > >>> the same banner. > >>> > >>> The part about the "What category of tutorial are you interested in" > >>> won't allow you to specify the same rating for any one category. The > >>> button columns are linked like radio buttons, which should not be the > >>> case. > >>> > >>> Right now it is impossible to rate each of the categories of tutorial > >>> interest. > >>> > >>> It should be changed so the radio button behavior only links > >>> horizonontally, not veritcally. For example a person should be able > >>> rate "Not Interested" in every category if they want. > >>> > >>> Thanks again, Arthur. > >>> > >>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >>> wrote: > >>> > Current feedback has been incorporated. Took a little longer since > the > >>> > logo > >>> > caused some unexpected text size changes.. but this survey should be > in > >>> > fairly good shape. > >>> > > >>> > Arthur > >>> > > >>> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > p: pytex2010test > >>> > Real time results (public) > >>> > > >>> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Arthur Aguirre > >>> > > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> OK, not a problem. > >>> >> > >>> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Brad Allen > > >>> >> wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> After reviewing the survey responses, I realized that the answers > >>> >>> "Which of the following best describe you" need further tweaking. > >>> >>> We're leaving out the professional developers who don't use Python > in > >>> >>> their job. Also, there are lots of categories not included, so we > >>> >>> should have an 'other' option. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Here's a different suggestion of choices for that question: > >>> >>> * University Student > >>> >>> * High School Student > >>> >>> * Faculty > >>> >>> * Professional Developer (using Python at work) > >>> >>> * Professional Developer (not using Python at work) > >>> >>> * System Administrator > >>> >>> * Retired > >>> >>> * Other > >>> >>> > >>> >>> I'm not sure that we need to list "Amateur Python developer" > because > >>> >>> that really covers anyone who writes Python code but is not a > >>> >>> professional developer. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >>> >>> wrote: > >>> >>> > The survey has the additional requests incorporated, feel free to > >>> >>> > review. > >>> >>> > As well, there is now an associated report for tabulated > responses. > >>> >>> > Once we > >>> >>> > get the right logo size we should be close to having this ready > to > >>> >>> > deploy. > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > Arthur > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > p: pytex2010test > >>> >>> > Real time results (public) > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > wrote: > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> Sounds good. This should be updated sometime tomorrow and ready > >>> >>> >> for > >>> >>> >> another round of review. > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> wrote: > >>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided > some > >>> >>> >>> useful feedback on the survey. > >>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> The part of the survey which deals with interests should not be > a > >>> >>> >>> ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest > >>> >>> >>> level of > >>> >>> >>> 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). > >>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> Here are some questions to add: > >>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> Is there a Python user group in your area? > >>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> Yes, I attend regularly > >>> >>> >>> Yes, I attend irregularly > >>> >>> >>> Yes, but I have never attended > >>> >>> >>> No, but I would be willing to help organize one > >>> >>> >>> No, but I would like to have one > >>> >>> >>> No, and I would not attend one > >>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> What is the nearest major city to where you live? > >>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> Dallas > >>> >>> >>> Fort Worth > >>> >>> >>> Houston > >>> >>> >>> Austin > >>> >>> >>> San Antonio > >>> >>> >>> Waco > >>> >>> >>> Corpus Christi > >>> >>> >>> Other (write in) > >>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> What is your zip code? (should be optional) > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Wed May 26 19:16:37 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 12:16:37 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Arthur, I've just realized that the survey does not point them to the PyTexas registration page. Driving registration is one of the most important goals of the survey. Currently the last page says: "Thanks for your help in the survey. If you would like to help get the word out about PyTexas, or otherwise want to get involved, please see: http://pytexas.org/GettingInvolved2010." I would like to expand the wording to say the following: ---------------------------- Thanks for your help in the survey. If you interested in attending, please register on our wiki at . For planning purposes we need to know in advance how many people attend. If you are undecided, please put your name in the "Tentative" section of the registration page. Also, if you would like to help get the word out about PyTexas, or otherwise want to get involved, please see: . -------------------------------- So far I have not announced the survey, so it's not too late for this final change. Thanks, Arthur! On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > The survey is live without restriction; as well the test data has been > cleared out.? Access to the survey is the same: > > http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > > Results page: > http://www.surveymonkey.com/sr.aspx?sm=y_2bGUGjyJn9S3p2J1v0luoC16liVIRYiAzwnR3gwyPO8_3d > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Brad Allen wrote: >> >> It looks good enough now, I think. Also I tested and found that the >> problem with the radio button vertical linking was resolved. >> >> I think we're good to go on this survey; it's time to open it to the >> public and get the word out about it! ?If you'll go ahead and clear >> the current data, then remove the password requirement, I'll work on >> the various announcements to send out over the next few days. >> >> Thanks again for your help on this, Arthur! >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> wrote: >> > Gave it a few more tweaks... though the banner editing capabilities are >> > somewhat limited (at least for the subscription I have). >> > >> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 >> > p: pytex2010test >> > >> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Alright, must have enforced something incorrectly.? In terms of the >> >> logo >> >> sizing and addition, I'll see what can be done. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Brad Allen >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Thanks. I just stepped through the survey, and have a bit of feedback. >> >>> >> >>> The banner at the top is a bit overlarge. Can you specify a smaller >> >>> display size for the image, or do we need to send you a smaller >> >>> version? >> >>> >> >>> It would be nice to have the words PyTexas 2010 next to the logo on >> >>> the same banner. >> >>> >> >>> The part about the "What category of tutorial are you interested in" >> >>> won't allow you to specify the same rating for any one category. The >> >>> button columns are linked like radio buttons, which should not be the >> >>> case. >> >>> >> >>> Right now it is impossible to rate each of the categories of tutorial >> >>> interest. >> >>> >> >>> It should be changed so the radio button behavior only links >> >>> horizonontally, not veritcally. For example a person should be able >> >>> rate "Not Interested" in every category if they want. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks again, Arthur. >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > Current feedback has been incorporated.? Took a little longer since >> >>> > the >> >>> > logo >> >>> > caused some unexpected text size changes.. but this survey should be >> >>> > in >> >>> > fairly good shape. >> >>> > >> >>> > Arthur >> >>> > >> >>> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > p: pytex2010test >> >>> > Real time results (public) >> >>> > >> >>> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Arthur Aguirre >> >>> > >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> OK, not a problem. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Brad Allen >> >>> >> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> After reviewing the survey responses, I realized that the answers >> >>> >>> "Which of the following best describe you" need further tweaking. >> >>> >>> We're leaving out the professional developers who don't use Python >> >>> >>> in >> >>> >>> their job. Also, there are lots of categories not included, so we >> >>> >>> should have an 'other' option. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Here's a different suggestion of choices for that question: >> >>> >>> * University Student >> >>> >>> * High School Student >> >>> >>> * Faculty >> >>> >>> * Professional Developer (using Python at work) >> >>> >>> * Professional Developer (not using Python at work) >> >>> >>> * System Administrator >> >>> >>> * Retired >> >>> >>> * Other >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> I'm not sure that we need to list "Amateur Python developer" >> >>> >>> because >> >>> >>> that really covers anyone who writes Python code but is not a >> >>> >>> professional developer. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> >>> >>> wrote: >> >>> >>> > The survey has the additional requests incorporated, feel free >> >>> >>> > to >> >>> >>> > review. >> >>> >>> > As well, there is now an associated report for tabulated >> >>> >>> > responses. >> >>> >>> > Once we >> >>> >>> > get the right logo size we should be close to having this ready >> >>> >>> > to >> >>> >>> > deploy. >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > Arthur >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > p: pytex2010test >> >>> >>> > Real time results (public) >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Sounds good.? This should be updated sometime tomorrow and >> >>> >>> >> ready >> >>> >>> >> for >> >>> >>> >> another round of review. >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided >> >>> >>> >>> some >> >>> >>> >>> useful feedback on the survey. >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> The part of the survey which deals with interests should not >> >>> >>> >>> be a >> >>> >>> >>> ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest >> >>> >>> >>> level of >> >>> >>> >>> 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> Here are some questions to add: >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> Is there a Python user group in your area? >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> ? ?Yes, I attend regularly >> >>> >>> >>> ? ?Yes, I attend irregularly >> >>> >>> >>> ? ?Yes, but I have never attended >> >>> >>> >>> ? ?No, but I would be willing to help organize one >> >>> >>> >>> ? ?No, but I would like to have one >> >>> >>> >>> ? ?No, and I would not attend one >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> What is the nearest major city to where you live? >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> ?Dallas >> >>> >>> >>> ?Fort Worth >> >>> >>> >>> ?Houston >> >>> >>> >>> ?Austin >> >>> >>> >>> ?San Antonio >> >>> >>> >>> ?Waco >> >>> >>> >>> ?Corpus Christi >> >>> >>> >>> ?Other (write in) >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> What is your zip code? ?(should be optional) >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> > > > From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Wed May 26 19:46:06 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 12:46:06 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK, not a problem. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Arthur, > > I've just realized that the survey does not point them to the PyTexas > registration page. Driving registration is one of the most important > goals of the survey. Currently the last page says: > > "Thanks for your help in the survey. If you would like to help get the > word out about PyTexas, or otherwise want to get involved, please see: > http://pytexas.org/GettingInvolved2010." > > I would like to expand the wording to say the following: > ---------------------------- > > Thanks for your help in the survey. If you interested in attending, > please register on our wiki at . For > planning purposes we need to know in advance how many people attend. > If you are undecided, please put your name in the "Tentative" section > of the registration page. > > Also, if you would like to help get the word out about PyTexas, or > otherwise want to get involved, please see: > . > -------------------------------- > > So far I have not announced the survey, so it's not too late for this > final change. > > Thanks, Arthur! > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: > > The survey is live without restriction; as well the test data has been > > cleared out. Access to the survey is the same: > > > > http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > > > > Results page: > > > http://www.surveymonkey.com/sr.aspx?sm=y_2bGUGjyJn9S3p2J1v0luoC16liVIRYiAzwnR3gwyPO8_3d > > > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Brad Allen > wrote: > >> > >> It looks good enough now, I think. Also I tested and found that the > >> problem with the radio button vertical linking was resolved. > >> > >> I think we're good to go on this survey; it's time to open it to the > >> public and get the word out about it! If you'll go ahead and clear > >> the current data, then remove the password requirement, I'll work on > >> the various announcements to send out over the next few days. > >> > >> Thanks again for your help on this, Arthur! > >> > >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> wrote: > >> > Gave it a few more tweaks... though the banner editing capabilities > are > >> > somewhat limited (at least for the subscription I have). > >> > > >> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > >> > p: pytex2010test > >> > > >> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Alright, must have enforced something incorrectly. In terms of the > >> >> logo > >> >> sizing and addition, I'll see what can be done. > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Brad Allen > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks. I just stepped through the survey, and have a bit of > feedback. > >> >>> > >> >>> The banner at the top is a bit overlarge. Can you specify a smaller > >> >>> display size for the image, or do we need to send you a smaller > >> >>> version? > >> >>> > >> >>> It would be nice to have the words PyTexas 2010 next to the logo on > >> >>> the same banner. > >> >>> > >> >>> The part about the "What category of tutorial are you interested in" > >> >>> won't allow you to specify the same rating for any one category. The > >> >>> button columns are linked like radio buttons, which should not be > the > >> >>> case. > >> >>> > >> >>> Right now it is impossible to rate each of the categories of > tutorial > >> >>> interest. > >> >>> > >> >>> It should be changed so the radio button behavior only links > >> >>> horizonontally, not veritcally. For example a person should be able > >> >>> rate "Not Interested" in every category if they want. > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks again, Arthur. > >> >>> > >> >>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > Current feedback has been incorporated. Took a little longer > since > >> >>> > the > >> >>> > logo > >> >>> > caused some unexpected text size changes.. but this survey should > be > >> >>> > in > >> >>> > fairly good shape. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Arthur > >> >>> > > >> >>> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > p: pytex2010test > >> >>> > Real time results (public) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >>> > > >> >>> > wrote: > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> OK, not a problem. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Brad Allen > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> wrote: > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> After reviewing the survey responses, I realized that the > answers > >> >>> >>> "Which of the following best describe you" need further > tweaking. > >> >>> >>> We're leaving out the professional developers who don't use > Python > >> >>> >>> in > >> >>> >>> their job. Also, there are lots of categories not included, so > we > >> >>> >>> should have an 'other' option. > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> Here's a different suggestion of choices for that question: > >> >>> >>> * University Student > >> >>> >>> * High School Student > >> >>> >>> * Faculty > >> >>> >>> * Professional Developer (using Python at work) > >> >>> >>> * Professional Developer (not using Python at work) > >> >>> >>> * System Administrator > >> >>> >>> * Retired > >> >>> >>> * Other > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> I'm not sure that we need to list "Amateur Python developer" > >> >>> >>> because > >> >>> >>> that really covers anyone who writes Python code but is not a > >> >>> >>> professional developer. > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >>> >>> wrote: > >> >>> >>> > The survey has the additional requests incorporated, feel free > >> >>> >>> > to > >> >>> >>> > review. > >> >>> >>> > As well, there is now an associated report for tabulated > >> >>> >>> > responses. > >> >>> >>> > Once we > >> >>> >>> > get the right logo size we should be close to having this > ready > >> >>> >>> > to > >> >>> >>> > deploy. > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> > Arthur > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> > p: pytex2010test > >> >>> >>> > Real time results (public) > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> > wrote: > >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> >> Sounds good. This should be updated sometime tomorrow and > >> >>> >>> >> ready > >> >>> >>> >> for > >> >>> >>> >> another round of review. > >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen > >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> >> wrote: > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided > >> >>> >>> >>> some > >> >>> >>> >>> useful feedback on the survey. > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> The part of the survey which deals with interests should not > >> >>> >>> >>> be a > >> >>> >>> >>> ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest > >> >>> >>> >>> level of > >> >>> >>> >>> 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> Here are some questions to add: > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> Is there a Python user group in your area? > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> Yes, I attend regularly > >> >>> >>> >>> Yes, I attend irregularly > >> >>> >>> >>> Yes, but I have never attended > >> >>> >>> >>> No, but I would be willing to help organize one > >> >>> >>> >>> No, but I would like to have one > >> >>> >>> >>> No, and I would not attend one > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> What is the nearest major city to where you live? > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> Dallas > >> >>> >>> >>> Fort Worth > >> >>> >>> >>> Houston > >> >>> >>> >>> Austin > >> >>> >>> >>> San Antonio > >> >>> >>> >>> Waco > >> >>> >>> >>> Corpus Christi > >> >>> >>> >>> Other (write in) > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> What is your zip code? (should be optional) > >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >> > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Wed May 26 21:49:16 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 14:49:16 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, The registration link has been added though it looks like the survey is already generating data (9 responses total). In terms of the final DONE button, the online instructions suggest that this must be clicked to register data. To facilitate this, I have added a one line sentence to remind respondents to click the button to submit their responses. If we feel strongly about making any other updates we should do that asap. Thanks. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Arthur, > > I've just realized that the survey does not point them to the PyTexas > registration page. Driving registration is one of the most important > goals of the survey. Currently the last page says: > > "Thanks for your help in the survey. If you would like to help get the > word out about PyTexas, or otherwise want to get involved, please see: > http://pytexas.org/GettingInvolved2010." > > I would like to expand the wording to say the following: > ---------------------------- > > Thanks for your help in the survey. If you interested in attending, > please register on our wiki at . For > planning purposes we need to know in advance how many people attend. > If you are undecided, please put your name in the "Tentative" section > of the registration page. > > Also, if you would like to help get the word out about PyTexas, or > otherwise want to get involved, please see: > . > -------------------------------- > > So far I have not announced the survey, so it's not too late for this > final change. > > Thanks, Arthur! > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: > > The survey is live without restriction; as well the test data has been > > cleared out. Access to the survey is the same: > > > > http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > > > > Results page: > > > http://www.surveymonkey.com/sr.aspx?sm=y_2bGUGjyJn9S3p2J1v0luoC16liVIRYiAzwnR3gwyPO8_3d > > > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Brad Allen > wrote: > >> > >> It looks good enough now, I think. Also I tested and found that the > >> problem with the radio button vertical linking was resolved. > >> > >> I think we're good to go on this survey; it's time to open it to the > >> public and get the word out about it! If you'll go ahead and clear > >> the current data, then remove the password requirement, I'll work on > >> the various announcements to send out over the next few days. > >> > >> Thanks again for your help on this, Arthur! > >> > >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> wrote: > >> > Gave it a few more tweaks... though the banner editing capabilities > are > >> > somewhat limited (at least for the subscription I have). > >> > > >> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > >> > p: pytex2010test > >> > > >> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Alright, must have enforced something incorrectly. In terms of the > >> >> logo > >> >> sizing and addition, I'll see what can be done. > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Brad Allen > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks. I just stepped through the survey, and have a bit of > feedback. > >> >>> > >> >>> The banner at the top is a bit overlarge. Can you specify a smaller > >> >>> display size for the image, or do we need to send you a smaller > >> >>> version? > >> >>> > >> >>> It would be nice to have the words PyTexas 2010 next to the logo on > >> >>> the same banner. > >> >>> > >> >>> The part about the "What category of tutorial are you interested in" > >> >>> won't allow you to specify the same rating for any one category. The > >> >>> button columns are linked like radio buttons, which should not be > the > >> >>> case. > >> >>> > >> >>> Right now it is impossible to rate each of the categories of > tutorial > >> >>> interest. > >> >>> > >> >>> It should be changed so the radio button behavior only links > >> >>> horizonontally, not veritcally. For example a person should be able > >> >>> rate "Not Interested" in every category if they want. > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks again, Arthur. > >> >>> > >> >>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > Current feedback has been incorporated. Took a little longer > since > >> >>> > the > >> >>> > logo > >> >>> > caused some unexpected text size changes.. but this survey should > be > >> >>> > in > >> >>> > fairly good shape. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Arthur > >> >>> > > >> >>> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > p: pytex2010test > >> >>> > Real time results (public) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >>> > > >> >>> > wrote: > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> OK, not a problem. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Brad Allen > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> wrote: > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> After reviewing the survey responses, I realized that the > answers > >> >>> >>> "Which of the following best describe you" need further > tweaking. > >> >>> >>> We're leaving out the professional developers who don't use > Python > >> >>> >>> in > >> >>> >>> their job. Also, there are lots of categories not included, so > we > >> >>> >>> should have an 'other' option. > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> Here's a different suggestion of choices for that question: > >> >>> >>> * University Student > >> >>> >>> * High School Student > >> >>> >>> * Faculty > >> >>> >>> * Professional Developer (using Python at work) > >> >>> >>> * Professional Developer (not using Python at work) > >> >>> >>> * System Administrator > >> >>> >>> * Retired > >> >>> >>> * Other > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> I'm not sure that we need to list "Amateur Python developer" > >> >>> >>> because > >> >>> >>> that really covers anyone who writes Python code but is not a > >> >>> >>> professional developer. > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >>> >>> wrote: > >> >>> >>> > The survey has the additional requests incorporated, feel free > >> >>> >>> > to > >> >>> >>> > review. > >> >>> >>> > As well, there is now an associated report for tabulated > >> >>> >>> > responses. > >> >>> >>> > Once we > >> >>> >>> > get the right logo size we should be close to having this > ready > >> >>> >>> > to > >> >>> >>> > deploy. > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> > Arthur > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> > url: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pytexas2010 > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> > p: pytex2010test > >> >>> >>> > Real time results (public) > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> > wrote: > >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> >> Sounds good. This should be updated sometime tomorrow and > >> >>> >>> >> ready > >> >>> >>> >> for > >> >>> >>> >> another round of review. > >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Brad Allen > >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> >> wrote: > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> During the DFW Python meeting yesterday, Jeff Rush provided > >> >>> >>> >>> some > >> >>> >>> >>> useful feedback on the survey. > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> The part of the survey which deals with interests should not > >> >>> >>> >>> be a > >> >>> >>> >>> ranking; each should be rated independently with an interest > >> >>> >>> >>> level of > >> >>> >>> >>> 1 (not interested) to 5 (highly interested). > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> Here are some questions to add: > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> Is there a Python user group in your area? > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> Yes, I attend regularly > >> >>> >>> >>> Yes, I attend irregularly > >> >>> >>> >>> Yes, but I have never attended > >> >>> >>> >>> No, but I would be willing to help organize one > >> >>> >>> >>> No, but I would like to have one > >> >>> >>> >>> No, and I would not attend one > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> What is the nearest major city to where you live? > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> Dallas > >> >>> >>> >>> Fort Worth > >> >>> >>> >>> Houston > >> >>> >>> >>> Austin > >> >>> >>> >>> San Antonio > >> >>> >>> >>> Waco > >> >>> >>> >>> Corpus Christi > >> >>> >>> >>> Other (write in) > >> >>> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> What is your zip code? (should be optional) > >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >> > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Wed May 26 23:06:01 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 16:06:01 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > Hi, > > The registration link has been added though it looks like the survey is > already generating data (9 responses total).? In terms of the final DONE > button, the online instructions suggest that this must be clicked to > register data.? To facilitate this, I have added a one line sentence to > remind respondents to click the button to submit their responses. I'm concerned they won't necessarily l read that sentence before clicking the link to leave the survey (and not everyone knows to open the outgoing link in a new tab or window). Can our final text with the outgoing links be shown after they press the Done button, or at least on the same page? From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Wed May 26 23:35:19 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 16:35:19 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK, I got this to work. Now we have an end landing page reminding respondents to submit their answers (needed this because logic from the email response is looking to push respondents to an end page). The end page redirects to the thank you page which has the PyTexas information. I have gone through the survey twice to verify this is working when saying yes or no to providing an email address. You can do the same; however, to identify test data please enter test into all Other specify boxes. Thanks. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The registration link has been added though it looks like the survey is > > already generating data (9 responses total). In terms of the final DONE > > button, the online instructions suggest that this must be clicked to > > register data. To facilitate this, I have added a one line sentence to > > remind respondents to click the button to submit their responses. > > I'm concerned they won't necessarily l read that sentence before > clicking the link to leave the survey (and not everyone knows to open > the outgoing link in a new tab or window). > > Can our final text with the outgoing links be shown after they press > the Done button, or at least on the same page? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Thu May 27 04:13:23 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 21:13:23 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Arthur. I appreciate you going the extra mile on this. I just tested to verify and having the Done button on the second to last screen is perfect, leading into the links to registration. I'll start sending out announcements. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > OK, I got this to work.? Now we have an end landing page reminding > respondents to submit their answers (needed this because logic from the > email response is looking to push respondents to an end page).? The end page > redirects to the thank you page which has the PyTexas information.? I have > gone through the survey twice to verify this is working when saying yes or > no to providing an email address.? You can do the same; however, to identify > test data please enter test into all Other specify boxes. > > Thanks. > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Brad Allen wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > The registration link has been added though it looks like the survey is >> > already generating data (9 responses total).? In terms of the final DONE >> > button, the online instructions suggest that this must be clicked to >> > register data.? To facilitate this, I have added a one line sentence to >> > remind respondents to click the button to submit their responses. >> >> I'm concerned they won't necessarily l read that sentence before >> clicking the link to leave the survey (and not everyone knows to open >> the outgoing link in a new tab or window). >> >> Can our final text with the outgoing links be shown after they press >> the Done button, or at least on the same page? > > From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Thu May 27 16:58:09 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:58:09 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not a problem. I was able to track down the test and have deleted it so the results page will display clean data. On the topic of results, during data collection or thereafter let me know what the next steps are for data delivery or analysis. The results page gives key information but there are obviously other areas not reported on that page. Arthur On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Thanks, Arthur. I appreciate you going the extra mile on this. I just > tested to verify and having the Done button on the second to last > screen is perfect, leading into the links to registration. > > I'll start sending out announcements. > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: > > OK, I got this to work. Now we have an end landing page reminding > > respondents to submit their answers (needed this because logic from the > > email response is looking to push respondents to an end page). The end > page > > redirects to the thank you page which has the PyTexas information. I > have > > gone through the survey twice to verify this is working when saying yes > or > > no to providing an email address. You can do the same; however, to > identify > > test data please enter test into all Other specify boxes. > > > > Thanks. > > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Brad Allen > wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > The registration link has been added though it looks like the survey > is > >> > already generating data (9 responses total). In terms of the final > DONE > >> > button, the online instructions suggest that this must be clicked to > >> > register data. To facilitate this, I have added a one line sentence > to > >> > remind respondents to click the button to submit their responses. > >> > >> I'm concerned they won't necessarily l read that sentence before > >> clicking the link to leave the survey (and not everyone knows to open > >> the outgoing link in a new tab or window). > >> > >> Can our final text with the outgoing links be shown after they press > >> the Done button, or at least on the same page? > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Thu May 27 21:21:12 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 14:21:12 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We're going to need to know t-shirt sizes pretty soon; that would be good to include on the results page. Later tonight I'll think up some more questions that could be derived from the data. So far we're up to 35 respondents, after having sent out the announcements to local user groups and the general Python community. Only three of those are from the DFW Python user group; most are from Houston and Austin. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > Not a problem.? I was able to track down the test and have deleted it so the > results page will display clean data.? On the topic of results, during data > collection or thereafter let me know what the next steps are for data > delivery or analysis.? The results page gives key information but there are > obviously other areas not reported on that page. > > Arthur > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Brad Allen wrote: >> >> Thanks, Arthur. I appreciate you going the extra mile on this. I just >> tested to verify and having the Done button on the second to last >> screen is perfect, leading into the links to registration. >> >> I'll start sending out announcements. >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> wrote: >> > OK, I got this to work.? Now we have an end landing page reminding >> > respondents to submit their answers (needed this because logic from the >> > email response is looking to push respondents to an end page).? The end >> > page >> > redirects to the thank you page which has the PyTexas information.? I >> > have >> > gone through the survey twice to verify this is working when saying yes >> > or >> > no to providing an email address.? You can do the same; however, to >> > identify >> > test data please enter test into all Other specify boxes. >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Brad Allen >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > The registration link has been added though it looks like the survey >> >> > is >> >> > already generating data (9 responses total).? In terms of the final >> >> > DONE >> >> > button, the online instructions suggest that this must be clicked to >> >> > register data.? To facilitate this, I have added a one line sentence >> >> > to >> >> > remind respondents to click the button to submit their responses. >> >> >> >> I'm concerned they won't necessarily l read that sentence before >> >> clicking the link to leave the survey (and not everyone knows to open >> >> the outgoing link in a new tab or window). >> >> >> >> Can our final text with the outgoing links be shown after they press >> >> the Done button, or at least on the same page? >> > >> > > > From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Thu May 27 22:27:02 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:27:02 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No problem, that's been added into the online results. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > We're going to need to know t-shirt sizes pretty soon; that would be > good to include on the results page. Later tonight I'll think up some > more questions that could be derived from the data. > > So far we're up to 35 respondents, after having sent out the > announcements to local user groups and the general Python community. > Only three of those are from the DFW Python user group; most are from > Houston and Austin. > > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: > > Not a problem. I was able to track down the test and have deleted it so > the > > results page will display clean data. On the topic of results, during > data > > collection or thereafter let me know what the next steps are for data > > delivery or analysis. The results page gives key information but there > are > > obviously other areas not reported on that page. > > > > Arthur > > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Brad Allen > wrote: > >> > >> Thanks, Arthur. I appreciate you going the extra mile on this. I just > >> tested to verify and having the Done button on the second to last > >> screen is perfect, leading into the links to registration. > >> > >> I'll start sending out announcements. > >> > >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> wrote: > >> > OK, I got this to work. Now we have an end landing page reminding > >> > respondents to submit their answers (needed this because logic from > the > >> > email response is looking to push respondents to an end page). The > end > >> > page > >> > redirects to the thank you page which has the PyTexas information. I > >> > have > >> > gone through the survey twice to verify this is working when saying > yes > >> > or > >> > no to providing an email address. You can do the same; however, to > >> > identify > >> > test data please enter test into all Other specify boxes. > >> > > >> > Thanks. > >> > > >> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Brad Allen > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Hi, > >> >> > > >> >> > The registration link has been added though it looks like the > survey > >> >> > is > >> >> > already generating data (9 responses total). In terms of the final > >> >> > DONE > >> >> > button, the online instructions suggest that this must be clicked > to > >> >> > register data. To facilitate this, I have added a one line > sentence > >> >> > to > >> >> > remind respondents to click the button to submit their responses. > >> >> > >> >> I'm concerned they won't necessarily l read that sentence before > >> >> clicking the link to leave the survey (and not everyone knows to open > >> >> the outgoing link in a new tab or window). > >> >> > >> >> Can our final text with the outgoing links be shown after they press > >> >> the Done button, or at least on the same page? > >> > > >> > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Fri May 28 00:24:50 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:24:50 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, 19 people skipped the t-shirt question, and 23 answered it. Are people embarrassed about their shirt sizes, or do they just not want a t-shirt? It's a good thing most of them agreed to be contacted via email so we can ask them :-) On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > No problem, that's been added into the online results. > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Brad Allen wrote: >> >> We're going to need to know t-shirt sizes pretty soon; that would be >> good to include on the results page. Later tonight I'll think up some >> more questions that could be derived from the data. >> >> So far we're up to 35 respondents, after having sent out the >> announcements to local user groups and the general Python community. >> Only three of those are from the DFW Python user group; most are from >> Houston and Austin. >> >> >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Arthur Aguirre >> wrote: >> > Not a problem.? I was able to track down the test and have deleted it so >> > the >> > results page will display clean data.? On the topic of results, during >> > data >> > collection or thereafter let me know what the next steps are for data >> > delivery or analysis.? The results page gives key information but there >> > are >> > obviously other areas not reported on that page. >> > >> > Arthur >> > >> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Brad Allen >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks, Arthur. I appreciate you going the extra mile on this. I just >> >> tested to verify and having the Done button on the second to last >> >> screen is perfect, leading into the links to registration. >> >> >> >> I'll start sending out announcements. >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> >> wrote: >> >> > OK, I got this to work.? Now we have an end landing page reminding >> >> > respondents to submit their answers (needed this because logic from >> >> > the >> >> > email response is looking to push respondents to an end page).? The >> >> > end >> >> > page >> >> > redirects to the thank you page which has the PyTexas information.? I >> >> > have >> >> > gone through the survey twice to verify this is working when saying >> >> > yes >> >> > or >> >> > no to providing an email address.? You can do the same; however, to >> >> > identify >> >> > test data please enter test into all Other specify boxes. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks. >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Brad Allen >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > Hi, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The registration link has been added though it looks like the >> >> >> > survey >> >> >> > is >> >> >> > already generating data (9 responses total).? In terms of the >> >> >> > final >> >> >> > DONE >> >> >> > button, the online instructions suggest that this must be clicked >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > register data.? To facilitate this, I have added a one line >> >> >> > sentence >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > remind respondents to click the button to submit their responses. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm concerned they won't necessarily l read that sentence before >> >> >> clicking the link to leave the survey (and not everyone knows to >> >> >> open >> >> >> the outgoing link in a new tab or window). >> >> >> >> >> >> Can our final text with the outgoing links be shown after they press >> >> >> the Done button, or at least on the same page? >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > > From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Fri May 28 02:14:35 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:14:35 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nah, it's set up to only gather this info from those saying they're attending.... so we have the right count. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Wow, 19 people skipped the t-shirt question, and 23 answered it. Are > people embarrassed about their shirt sizes, or do they just not want a > t-shirt? > > It's a good thing most of them agreed to be contacted via email so we > can ask them :-) > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: > > No problem, that's been added into the online results. > > > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Brad Allen > wrote: > >> > >> We're going to need to know t-shirt sizes pretty soon; that would be > >> good to include on the results page. Later tonight I'll think up some > >> more questions that could be derived from the data. > >> > >> So far we're up to 35 respondents, after having sent out the > >> announcements to local user groups and the general Python community. > >> Only three of those are from the DFW Python user group; most are from > >> Houston and Austin. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Arthur Aguirre > >> wrote: > >> > Not a problem. I was able to track down the test and have deleted it > so > >> > the > >> > results page will display clean data. On the topic of results, during > >> > data > >> > collection or thereafter let me know what the next steps are for data > >> > delivery or analysis. The results page gives key information but > there > >> > are > >> > obviously other areas not reported on that page. > >> > > >> > Arthur > >> > > >> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Brad Allen > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, Arthur. I appreciate you going the extra mile on this. I just > >> >> tested to verify and having the Done button on the second to last > >> >> screen is perfect, leading into the links to registration. > >> >> > >> >> I'll start sending out announcements. > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > OK, I got this to work. Now we have an end landing page reminding > >> >> > respondents to submit their answers (needed this because logic from > >> >> > the > >> >> > email response is looking to push respondents to an end page). The > >> >> > end > >> >> > page > >> >> > redirects to the thank you page which has the PyTexas information. > I > >> >> > have > >> >> > gone through the survey twice to verify this is working when saying > >> >> > yes > >> >> > or > >> >> > no to providing an email address. You can do the same; however, to > >> >> > identify > >> >> > test data please enter test into all Other specify boxes. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Brad Allen < > bradallen137 at gmail.com> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > Hi, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > The registration link has been added though it looks like the > >> >> >> > survey > >> >> >> > is > >> >> >> > already generating data (9 responses total). In terms of the > >> >> >> > final > >> >> >> > DONE > >> >> >> > button, the online instructions suggest that this must be > clicked > >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> > register data. To facilitate this, I have added a one line > >> >> >> > sentence > >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> > remind respondents to click the button to submit their > responses. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I'm concerned they won't necessarily l read that sentence before > >> >> >> clicking the link to leave the survey (and not everyone knows to > >> >> >> open > >> >> >> the outgoing link in a new tab or window). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Can our final text with the outgoing links be shown after they > press > >> >> >> the Done button, or at least on the same page? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Fri May 28 02:29:17 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:29:17 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Really? Did you remove the part of the survey asking if they would be willing to be contacted via email? That part was there every time I tested the survey, and it gave me a place to enter my email address. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Arthur Aguirre wrote: > Nah, it's set up to only gather this info from those saying they're > attending.... so we have the right count. > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Brad Allen wrote: >> >> Wow, 19 people skipped the t-shirt question, and 23 answered it. Are >> people embarrassed about their shirt sizes, or do they just not want a >> t-shirt? >> >> It's a good thing most of them agreed to be contacted via email so we >> can ask them :-) >> >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> wrote: >> > No problem, that's been added into the online results. >> > >> > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Brad Allen >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> We're going to need to know t-shirt sizes pretty soon; that would be >> >> good to include on the results page. Later tonight I'll think up some >> >> more questions that could be derived from the data. >> >> >> >> So far we're up to 35 respondents, after having sent out the >> >> announcements to local user groups and the general Python community. >> >> Only three of those are from the DFW Python user group; most are from >> >> Houston and Austin. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Arthur Aguirre >> >> wrote: >> >> > Not a problem.? I was able to track down the test and have deleted it >> >> > so >> >> > the >> >> > results page will display clean data.? On the topic of results, >> >> > during >> >> > data >> >> > collection or thereafter let me know what the next steps are for data >> >> > delivery or analysis.? The results page gives key information but >> >> > there >> >> > are >> >> > obviously other areas not reported on that page. >> >> > >> >> > Arthur >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Brad Allen >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, Arthur. I appreciate you going the extra mile on this. I >> >> >> just >> >> >> tested to verify and having the Done button on the second to last >> >> >> screen is perfect, leading into the links to registration. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'll start sending out announcements. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > OK, I got this to work.? Now we have an end landing page reminding >> >> >> > respondents to submit their answers (needed this because logic >> >> >> > from >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > email response is looking to push respondents to an end page). >> >> >> > The >> >> >> > end >> >> >> > page >> >> >> > redirects to the thank you page which has the PyTexas >> >> >> > information.? I >> >> >> > have >> >> >> > gone through the survey twice to verify this is working when >> >> >> > saying >> >> >> > yes >> >> >> > or >> >> >> > no to providing an email address.? You can do the same; however, >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > identify >> >> >> > test data please enter test into all Other specify boxes. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Thanks. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Brad Allen >> >> >> > >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Arthur Aguirre >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Hi, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The registration link has been added though it looks like the >> >> >> >> > survey >> >> >> >> > is >> >> >> >> > already generating data (9 responses total).? In terms of the >> >> >> >> > final >> >> >> >> > DONE >> >> >> >> > button, the online instructions suggest that this must be >> >> >> >> > clicked >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > register data.? To facilitate this, I have added a one line >> >> >> >> > sentence >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > remind respondents to click the button to submit their >> >> >> >> > responses. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm concerned they won't necessarily l read that sentence before >> >> >> >> clicking the link to leave the survey (and not everyone knows to >> >> >> >> open >> >> >> >> the outgoing link in a new tab or window). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Can our final text with the outgoing links be shown after they >> >> >> >> press >> >> >> >> the Done button, or at least on the same page? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > > From aguirre.arthur at gmail.com Fri May 28 02:30:42 2010 From: aguirre.arthur at gmail.com (Arthur Aguirre) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:30:42 -0500 Subject: [Texas] PyTexas survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh, I'm referring to the t-shirt data... everyone will be asked email regardless of their intention to attend. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Brad Allen wrote: > Really? Did you remove the part of the survey asking if they would be > willing to be contacted via email? That part was there every time I > tested the survey, and it gave me a place to enter my email address. > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Arthur Aguirre > wrote: > > Nah, it's set up to only gather this info from those saying they're > > attending.... so we have the right count. > > > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Brad Allen > wrote: > >> > >> Wow, 19 people skipped the t-shirt question, and 23 answered it. Are > >> people embarrassed about their shirt sizes, or do they just not want a > >> t-shirt? > >> > >> It's a good thing most of them agreed to be contacted via email so we > >> can ask them :-) > >> > >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> wrote: > >> > No problem, that's been added into the online results. > >> > > >> > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Brad Allen > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> We're going to need to know t-shirt sizes pretty soon; that would be > >> >> good to include on the results page. Later tonight I'll think up some > >> >> more questions that could be derived from the data. > >> >> > >> >> So far we're up to 35 respondents, after having sent out the > >> >> announcements to local user groups and the general Python community. > >> >> Only three of those are from the DFW Python user group; most are from > >> >> Houston and Austin. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Not a problem. I was able to track down the test and have deleted > it > >> >> > so > >> >> > the > >> >> > results page will display clean data. On the topic of results, > >> >> > during > >> >> > data > >> >> > collection or thereafter let me know what the next steps are for > data > >> >> > delivery or analysis. The results page gives key information but > >> >> > there > >> >> > are > >> >> > obviously other areas not reported on that page. > >> >> > > >> >> > Arthur > >> >> > > >> >> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Brad Allen < > bradallen137 at gmail.com> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Thanks, Arthur. I appreciate you going the extra mile on this. I > >> >> >> just > >> >> >> tested to verify and having the Done button on the second to last > >> >> >> screen is perfect, leading into the links to registration. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I'll start sending out announcements. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > OK, I got this to work. Now we have an end landing page > reminding > >> >> >> > respondents to submit their answers (needed this because logic > >> >> >> > from > >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> > email response is looking to push respondents to an end page). > >> >> >> > The > >> >> >> > end > >> >> >> > page > >> >> >> > redirects to the thank you page which has the PyTexas > >> >> >> > information. I > >> >> >> > have > >> >> >> > gone through the survey twice to verify this is working when > >> >> >> > saying > >> >> >> > yes > >> >> >> > or > >> >> >> > no to providing an email address. You can do the same; however, > >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> > identify > >> >> >> > test data please enter test into all Other specify boxes. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Thanks. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Brad Allen > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Arthur Aguirre > >> >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > Hi, > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > The registration link has been added though it looks like the > >> >> >> >> > survey > >> >> >> >> > is > >> >> >> >> > already generating data (9 responses total). In terms of the > >> >> >> >> > final > >> >> >> >> > DONE > >> >> >> >> > button, the online instructions suggest that this must be > >> >> >> >> > clicked > >> >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> >> > register data. To facilitate this, I have added a one line > >> >> >> >> > sentence > >> >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> >> > remind respondents to click the button to submit their > >> >> >> >> > responses. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I'm concerned they won't necessarily l read that sentence > before > >> >> >> >> clicking the link to leave the survey (and not everyone knows > to > >> >> >> >> open > >> >> >> >> the outgoing link in a new tab or window). > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Can our final text with the outgoing links be shown after they > >> >> >> >> press > >> >> >> >> the Done button, or at least on the same page? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradallen137 at gmail.com Sat May 29 20:09:05 2010 From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 13:09:05 -0500 Subject: [Texas] working on call for proposals Message-ID: I've started to put together the call for proposals, by copying and modifying from the PyOhio text (with permission). It's in reStructuredTexas, which doesn't quite look right because I have not enabled that mode on MoinMoin (yet). http://pytexas.org/CallForProposals2010 Here's some wording for which I'd like feedback: "All proposals should be emailed to texas at python.org for review. Please submit proposals by July 1, 2010. Accepted speakers will be notified by Aug 1." Do you think the proposals should be sent via email to this mailing list, or should we come up with a different strategy?