From lac at openend.se  Sun Nov  1 02:30:58 2015
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2015 08:30:58 +0100
Subject: [Tkinter-discuss] Linux compile Python with (Active)Tcl 8.6
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In a message of Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:52:04 +0200, Aivar Annamaa writes:
>I'm trying to compile Python 3.5.0 on CentOS 6 with Tcl 8.6. I did
>
>./configure --with-tcltk-includes=I/opt/ActiveTcl-8.6/include
>--with-tcltk-libs=L/opt/ActiveTcl-8.6/libs --prefix=/home/aivar/localpython
>After installing, IDLE -> Help -> About shows me that I'm using Tk 8.5.7.
>
>What could have gone wrong?

One possibility is that the idle you are getting isn't the one 
that you just made, but a different one on your system, possibly
connected to 2.7

Laura


From bob at passcal.nmt.edu  Mon Nov 16 13:50:44 2015
From: bob at passcal.nmt.edu (Robert Greschke)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:50:44 -0700
Subject: [Tkinter-discuss] JPEGs
Message-ID: <2E2669DF-525F-4C68-BA35-8CB658686EF2@passcal.nmt.edu>

Why can't I go

Pic = PhotoImage(file = "./lp.jpg")

?

Are JPEGs not popular enough yet, or am I missing something? This is one of the craziest restrictions to Tkinter I can think of. I wish I knew how to fix it, but I just ain't smart enough.

No, I don't want to use PIL. I'd like to make imbedded help that is just simple text-picture-text-picture, instead of just text. Yes, the pictures could be PNGs, but, again, are JPEGs just not popular enough, or is it a licensing thing of some sort?

Bob


From klappnase at web.de  Mon Nov 16 14:14:08 2015
From: klappnase at web.de (Michael Lange)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:14:08 +0100
Subject: [Tkinter-discuss] JPEGs
In-Reply-To: <2E2669DF-525F-4C68-BA35-8CB658686EF2@passcal.nmt.edu>
References: <2E2669DF-525F-4C68-BA35-8CB658686EF2@passcal.nmt.edu>
Message-ID: <20151116201408.ebd4279b23052a14a1307db7@web.de>

Hi,

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:50:44 -0700
Robert Greschke <bob at passcal.nmt.edu> wrote:

> Why can't I go
> 
> Pic = PhotoImage(file = "./lp.jpg")
> 
> ?
> 
> Are JPEGs not popular enough yet, or am I missing something? This is
> one of the craziest restrictions to Tkinter I can think of. I wish I
> knew how to fix it, but I just ain't smart enough.
> 
> No, I don't want to use PIL. I'd like to make imbedded help that is
> just simple text-picture-text-picture, instead of just text. Yes, the
> pictures could be PNGs, but, again, are JPEGs just not popular enough,
> or is it a licensing thing of some sort?

reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG#Patent_issues I figure that
it might be the latter.
If you don't want to use PIL, maybe tkimg is an option for you? If not I
am afraid you will have to stick with PNGs or GIFs.

Best regards

Michael


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From bob at passcal.nmt.edu  Mon Nov 16 17:18:37 2015
From: bob at passcal.nmt.edu (Robert Greschke)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 15:18:37 -0700
Subject: [Tkinter-discuss] JPEGs
In-Reply-To: <2DEC028C-DDB0-4B4B-A281-7B835FF4CC67@passcal.nmt.edu>
References: <2E2669DF-525F-4C68-BA35-8CB658686EF2@passcal.nmt.edu>
 <20151116201408.ebd4279b23052a14a1307db7@web.de>
 <2DEC028C-DDB0-4B4B-A281-7B835FF4CC67@passcal.nmt.edu>
Message-ID: <5B66C52E-9387-4A9E-90A2-414B2B5B2BAE@passcal.nmt.edu>

Oops. Didn't hit the Reply All.

> On 2015-11-16, at 12:39, Robert Greschke <bob at passcal.nmt.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 2015-11-16, at 12:14, Michael Lange <klappnase at web.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:50:44 -0700
>> Robert Greschke <bob at passcal.nmt.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> Why can't I go
>>> 
>>> Pic = PhotoImage(file = "./lp.jpg")
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> Are JPEGs not popular enough yet, or am I missing something? This is
>>> one of the craziest restrictions to Tkinter I can think of. I wish I
>>> knew how to fix it, but I just ain't smart enough.
>>> 
>>> No, I don't want to use PIL. I'd like to make imbedded help that is
>>> just simple text-picture-text-picture, instead of just text. Yes, the
>>> pictures could be PNGs, but, again, are JPEGs just not popular enough,
>>> or is it a licensing thing of some sort?
>> 
>> reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG#Patent_issues I figure that
>> it might be the latter.
>> If you don't want to use PIL, maybe tkimg is an option for you? If not I
>> am afraid you will have to stick with PNGs or GIFs.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
> 
> Yup, looks like it. (Cool article.) I guess Dick the Butcher had the right idea. :)
> 
> I can do PNGs for the help pictures, but I guess I'll just have to suck it up and use PIL for my extracurricular project -- extracting artwork from music and video files and making thumbnails. Darn it. 
> 
> How come PIL can get away with it?
> 
> Thanks!
> Bob
> 
> 


From bob at passcal.nmt.edu  Mon Nov 16 18:06:20 2015
From: bob at passcal.nmt.edu (Robert Greschke)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:06:20 -0700
Subject: [Tkinter-discuss] JPEGs
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1511162301080.12458@do1.waynewerner.com>
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 <2DEC028C-DDB0-4B4B-A281-7B835FF4CC67@passcal.nmt.edu>
 <5B66C52E-9387-4A9E-90A2-414B2B5B2BAE@passcal.nmt.edu>
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> On 2015-11-16, at 16:02, Wayne Werner <wayne at waynewerner.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015, Robert Greschke wrote:
> 
>> Oops. Didn't hit the Reply All.
>>> 
>>> I can do PNGs for the help pictures, but I guess I'll just have to suck it up and use PIL for my extracurricular project
> 
> You probably have noticed this, but just in case - PIL is now pillow.
> 
> -W
> 

Good thing I didn't go looking yet. I HAD forgotten that. I'm sure Alphagoogle didn't though. :)

Thanks!


From wayne at waynewerner.com  Mon Nov 16 18:02:39 2015
From: wayne at waynewerner.com (Wayne Werner)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 23:02:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tkinter-discuss] JPEGs
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References: <2E2669DF-525F-4C68-BA35-8CB658686EF2@passcal.nmt.edu>
 <20151116201408.ebd4279b23052a14a1307db7@web.de>
 <2DEC028C-DDB0-4B4B-A281-7B835FF4CC67@passcal.nmt.edu>
 <5B66C52E-9387-4A9E-90A2-414B2B5B2BAE@passcal.nmt.edu>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1511162301080.12458@do1.waynewerner.com>

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015, Robert Greschke wrote:

> Oops. Didn't hit the Reply All.
>>
>> I can do PNGs for the help pictures, but I guess I'll just have to suck it up and use PIL for my extracurricular project

You probably have noticed this, but just in case - PIL is now pillow.

-W

From uvizhe at yandex.ru  Sat Nov 28 16:28:29 2015
From: uvizhe at yandex.ru (Alexander Uvizhev)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 00:28:29 +0300
Subject: [Tkinter-discuss] Tkinter on OS X generates excessive event on
 non-US input sequence
Message-ID: <955501448746109@web24m.yandex.ru>

Hi,
I've found that Tkinter on Mac OS X somehow incorrectly works with events when bound sequence hit on non-US keyboard layout.
I use Russian keyboard layout along with English and I'm trying now to arrange Undo/Redo shortcuts to work correctly independent of layout. Under Linux everything works fine from the box. Under OS X it seems like a bug and when I hit <Command-Cyrillic_ya> which is the same physical keys as <Command-z> tkinter sends excessive KeyPress event.
Here is the test code.
================
from tkinter import *

class TkExample(Frame):
    def __init__(self, parent):
        Frame.__init__(self, parent)
        self.pack()
        text = Text(self)
        text.pack()
        text.bind('<KeyPress>', self.on_kp)
        text.bind('<<Undo>>', self.on_undo)

    def on_kp(self, event):
        print('CHAR:', event.char)

    def on_undo(self, event):
        print('UNDO')


if __name__ == '__main__':
    root = Tk()
    TkExample(root)
    root.mainloop()
================

When I run the app and hit <Command-z> I get this output:
CHAR:
UNDO

But if I hit <Command-Cyrillic_ya> I see this:
CHAR:  
CHAR: z
UNDO

Under Linux in both cases I get the same output (1).

Can anyone explain this? Maybe this is not a bug?

-- 
Alexander Uvizhev
uvizhe at yandex.ru

From lac at openend.se  Sat Nov 28 16:43:25 2015
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:43:25 +0100
Subject: [Tkinter-discuss] Tkinter on OS X generates excessive event on
 non-US input sequence
In-Reply-To: <955501448746109@web24m.yandex.ru>
References: <955501448746109@web24m.yandex.ru>
Message-ID: <201511282143.tASLhPju025286@fido.openend.se>

In a message of Sun, 29 Nov 2015 00:28:29 +0300, Alexander Uvizhev writes:
>Hi,
>I've found that Tkinter on Mac OS X somehow incorrectly works with events when bound sequence hit on non-US keyboard layout.
>I use Russian keyboard layout along with English and I'm trying now to arrange Undo/Redo shortcuts to work correctly independent of layout. Under Linux everything works fine from the box. Under OS X it seems like a bug and when I hit <Command-Cyrillic_ya> which is the same physical keys as <Command-z> tkinter sends excessive KeyPress event.
>Here is the test code.
>================
>from tkinter import *
>
>class TkExample(Frame):
>    def __init__(self, parent):
>        Frame.__init__(self, parent)
>        self.pack()
>        text = Text(self)
>        text.pack()
>        text.bind('<KeyPress>', self.on_kp)
>        text.bind('<<Undo>>', self.on_undo)
>
>    def on_kp(self, event):
>        print('CHAR:', event.char)
>
>    def on_undo(self, event):
>        print('UNDO')
>
>
>if __name__ == '__main__':
>    root = Tk()
>    TkExample(root)
>    root.mainloop()
>================
>
>When I run the app and hit <Command-z> I get this output:
>CHAR:
>UNDO
>
>But if I hit <Command-Cyrillic_ya> I see this:
>CHAR:  
>CHAR: z
>UNDO
>
>Under Linux in both cases I get the same output (1).
>
>Can anyone explain this? Maybe this is not a bug?
>
>-- 
>Alexander Uvizhev
>uvizhe at yandex.ru
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>Tkinter-discuss mailing list
>Tkinter-discuss at python.org
>https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Conceivably related to this:
https://bugs.python.org/issue10973

which is filed under 'Tk bug'.  Maybe Tk got fixed but not quite enough
fixed?

Laura