http://blog.ianbicking.org/turbogears-and-pylons.html Via DFWPython. Was discussed at PyCon at the ToscaWidgets talk. -- Sincerely, Chris Calloway http://www.seacoos.org office: 332 Chapman Hall phone: (919) 962-4323 mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599