From pgodley at gmail.com Fri May 1 18:39:45 2009 From: pgodley at gmail.com (Paul Godley) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:39:45 -0400 Subject: [TriZPUG] Plone sales pitch? Message-ID: All, I know I'm a little off topic here, but I figure you Python folks know a lot of Plone too. I'm going to deliver an internal sales pitch at work, promoting Plone for a company intranet. It'd be used for general company information (newsletter type stuff), employee collaboration/discussion while working through ideas (rather than endless email threads), SOP document storage, and whatever else it seems good for. So I'm looking for good talking points for a Plone sales pitch. Have any of you pitched Plone? What sales techniques worked well? What fell flat? I've subscribed to this list for a while, so I'm starting here. I'm not on a Plone list. Feel free to recommend a good one if this is too off topic for this list. Thanks! -P From tomclark at shawu.edu Fri May 1 19:11:22 2009 From: tomclark at shawu.edu (Clark, Tom) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 13:11:22 -0400 Subject: [TriZPUG] Plone sales pitch? References: Message-ID: <360FAA5E865EBC489759790145A448A908B05BA1@bear.shawu.edu> Hi Paul, I'm definitely here on the Plone/CMS side of things, though I'm learning as much Python as I can. I've pitched Plone twice: 1 success, 1 yet to be determined. Though they were two considerably different situations and I have considerably different roles in each case. I have some slides from each episode and would be happy to share them with you--though I think it would best be done in the context of some conversation. Give me a call if you want. Tom Clark, MLS Librarian, Wiggins Divinity Library Shaw University 919-274-7463 tomclark at shawu.edu -----Original Message----- From: trizpug-bounces+tomclark=shawu.edu at python.org on behalf of Paul Godley Sent: Fri 5/1/2009 12:39 PM To: trizpug at python.org Subject: [TriZPUG] Plone sales pitch? All, I know I'm a little off topic here, but I figure you Python folks know a lot of Plone too. I'm going to deliver an internal sales pitch at work, promoting Plone for a company intranet. It'd be used for general company information (newsletter type stuff), employee collaboration/discussion while working through ideas (rather than endless email threads), SOP document storage, and whatever else it seems good for. So I'm looking for good talking points for a Plone sales pitch. Have any of you pitched Plone? What sales techniques worked well? What fell flat? I've subscribed to this list for a while, so I'm starting here. I'm not on a Plone list. Feel free to recommend a good one if this is too off topic for this list. Thanks! -P _______________________________________________ TriZPUG mailing list TriZPUG at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3517 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stephan_altmueller at unc.edu Fri May 1 19:45:18 2009 From: stephan_altmueller at unc.edu (Stephan Altmueller) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:45:18 -0400 Subject: [TriZPUG] Plone sales pitch? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FB352E.6030204@unc.edu> Hi Paul, We use Plone for websites as well as our Intranet and it's been very successful as an intranet. I don't think there is a magic angle to take, but go for the straight simplicity that Plone is very user friendly and quite powerful. I would set up an instance on a laptop, get familiar with it and demo it in the meeting. But then I am an engineer and not a sale man and there might be better ways to communicate that to management ;-) For the actual implementation of intranet there are a couple caveats: You want to make sure that all your needs are more or less covered by standard products/plugins or be ready to probably hire someone to build you custom functionality (which brings up the cost). Depending on the activity you are expecting you might also need to allocate enough processing power and memory, because Plone is significantly more resource intensive when it serves (many) logged in users versus anonymous user. Hope this helps. -- Stephan Paul Godley wrote: > All, > > I know I'm a little off topic here, but I figure you Python folks know > a lot of Plone too. > > I'm going to deliver an internal sales pitch at work, promoting Plone > for a company intranet. It'd be used for general company information > (newsletter type stuff), employee collaboration/discussion while > working through ideas (rather than endless email threads), SOP > document storage, and whatever else it seems good for. > > So I'm looking for good talking points for a Plone sales pitch. Have > any of you pitched Plone? What sales techniques worked well? What fell > flat? > > I've subscribed to this list for a while, so I'm starting here. I'm > not on a Plone list. Feel free to recommend a good one if this is too > off topic for this list. > > Thanks! > > -P > _______________________________________________ > TriZPUG mailing list > TriZPUG at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug > http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group > From cbc at unc.edu Fri May 1 20:12:11 2009 From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 14:12:11 -0400 Subject: [TriZPUG] Plone sales pitch? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FB3B7B.8050709@unc.edu> On 5/1/2009 12:39 PM, Paul Godley wrote: > All, > > I know I'm a little off topic here, but I figure you Python folks know > a lot of Plone too. > > I'm going to deliver an internal sales pitch at work, promoting Plone > for a company intranet. It'd be used for general company information > (newsletter type stuff), employee collaboration/discussion while > working through ideas (rather than endless email threads), SOP > document storage, and whatever else it seems good for. > > So I'm looking for good talking points for a Plone sales pitch. Have > any of you pitched Plone? What sales techniques worked well? What fell > flat? > > I've subscribed to this list for a while, so I'm starting here. I'm > not on a Plone list. Feel free to recommend a good one if this is too > off topic for this list. You are not too off topic. But you may want to join the Plone Evangelism list and ask this question there also, because that list is all about pitching Plone and the folks on that list have lots of Plone pitching resources: http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism Most of the Plone Community just participated in World Plone Day this past April 22, which is a day for pitching Plone. TriZPUG had a WPD event last fall but didn't have anyone who wanted to drive one this spring. But you can benefit from the materials other folks contributed to the effort: http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/contributed-marketing-materials -- Sincerely, Chris Calloway http://www.secoora.org office: 332 Chapman Hall phone: (919) 599-3530 mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599 From pgodley at gmail.com Sun May 3 20:54:54 2009 From: pgodley at gmail.com (Paul Godley) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 14:54:54 -0400 Subject: [TriZPUG] Plone sales pitch? In-Reply-To: <49FB3B7B.8050709@unc.edu> References: <49FB3B7B.8050709@unc.edu> Message-ID: Thanks for all the good info and ideas. I just subscribed to Plone Evangelism and will ask the question there too. I do Python and Zope programming, took Joel Burton's Plone Bootcamp last summer, have dipped my toe into Plone dev, and have an internal Plone server running with logins set up for some coworkers. I plan to use Plone's "view as slideshow" option to do a short presentation. My main point will be that the content is searchable. Next, that Plone is easy for everyone to contribute to, thereby allowing the contribution and maintenance effort to be shared around the office. People in charge of the info can now be in charge of publishing it. Cool stuff. After that point, I'm not sure where I want to go. I'm thinking "can do a lot out of the box", "can display data from other databases we have", then "we can create custom content types if needed". It'll be a short presentation, so that will probably cover it. Please don't hesitate to offer other suggestions. And thanks again! -P On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Chris Calloway wrote: > On 5/1/2009 12:39 PM, Paul Godley wrote: >> >> All, >> >> I know I'm a little off topic here, but I figure you Python folks know >> a lot of Plone too. >> >> I'm going to deliver an internal sales pitch at work, promoting Plone >> for a company intranet. It'd be used for general company information >> (newsletter type stuff), employee collaboration/discussion while >> working through ideas (rather than endless email threads), SOP >> document storage, and whatever else it seems good for. >> >> So I'm looking for good talking points for a Plone sales pitch. Have >> any of you pitched Plone? What sales techniques worked well? What fell >> flat? >> >> I've subscribed to this list for a while, so I'm starting here. I'm >> not on a Plone list. Feel free to recommend a good one if this is too >> off topic for this list. > > You are not too off topic. But you may want to join the Plone Evangelism > list and ask this question there also, because that list is all about > pitching Plone and the folks on that list have lots of Plone pitching > resources: > > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > Most of the Plone Community just participated in World Plone Day this past > April 22, which is a day for pitching Plone. TriZPUG had a WPD event last > fall but didn't have anyone who wanted to drive one this spring. But you can > benefit from the materials other folks contributed to the effort: > > http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/contributed-marketing-materials > > -- > Sincerely, > > Chris Calloway > http://www.secoora.org > office: 332 Chapman Hall ? phone: (919) 599-3530 > mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599 > > > > _______________________________________________ > TriZPUG mailing list > TriZPUG at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug > http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group > From cbc at unc.edu Tue May 5 20:49:57 2009 From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:49:57 -0400 Subject: [TriZPUG] More Fun/Crazy Pattern Mining with Python and MapReduce Message-ID: <4A008A55.2010407@unc.edu> http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=2294 -- Sincerely, Chris Calloway http://www.secoora.org office: 332 Chapman Hall phone: (919) 599-3530 mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599 From Tom_Roche at pobox.com Wed May 6 21:20:56 2009 From: Tom_Roche at pobox.com (Tom Roche) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TriZPUG] Python classes? Message-ID: <20090506192056.F2F5D141DB440@cedar.isis.unc.edu> This thread has probably aged out, and the following is probably not what the original poster was looking for anyway, but I thought it might be useful to someone: http://www.unc.edu/sis/clsched/fall/COMP.html (edited) > COMP 116 INTRO SCIENTIFIC PROG LEC 3.0 > 91712 001 MWF 09:30AM-10:45AM BISHOP, G FB F009 OPEN > SECTION: PYTHON SEATS AVAILABLE: 54 For the pre-Python syllabus, see http://www.cs.unc.edu/Admin/Courses/descriptions/016.html For more about the instructor, see http://wwwx.cs.unc.edu/~gb/wp/ HTH, Tom Roche From cbc at unc.edu Tue May 12 02:53:49 2009 From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 20:53:49 -0400 Subject: [TriZPUG] Free Plone Site for Deserving 501c3 Non-profit Message-ID: <4A08C89D.8040700@unc.edu> Do you represent a 501c3 Non-profit or know of one in need of a content managed website? Then check out this opportunity for a free Plone site. The deadline to apply is Friday: As a part of the Plone Immersive Training Experience, http://immersive-training.net/, Six Feet Up (http://www.sixfeetup.com) invites non-profits to apply for a free enterprise-quality website. On September 10th, 11th and 12th, 2009, the Plone Immersive Training Experience will take web application developers through the hands-on and guided exercise of creating and launching a real content-managed website for a non-profit organization to be selected from a pool of applicants. "We encourage non-profit organizations that are in need of a brand new website to take advantage of this unique opportunity to get an enterprise-level website virtually for free", says Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker, Six Feet Up's CEO. Non-profits may apply online before May 15th, 2009, by providing contact details and a short explanation on why they need a new website. Voting by the online community will then start and continue until June 5th. A winner will be announced on June 15th, 2009. The chosen non-profit will just be asked to provide a final design, domain name, and copy for the site content. They will work with Six Feet Up to develop their requirements for a website. In return, the non-profit will work with top content management professionals to bring the site to life during the Plone Immersive Training Experience in September. The non-profit website will be based on the Plone open source content management system and will include features such as an event calendar, a slideshow, a news section, embedded video files, a staff/people directory, and more. Non-profit organizations seeking more information should review the following links for more details: ? Application Form: http://immersive-training.net/non-profits/application-form ? Official Rules: http://immersive-training.net/non-profits/non-profit-participation-rules ? Schedule of Development: http://immersive-training.net/non-profits/selection-timeline ? FAQs: http://immersive-training.net/non-profits/faq -- Sincerely, Chris Calloway http://www.secoora.org office: 332 Chapman Hall phone: (919) 599-3530 mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599 From cbc at unc.edu Tue May 12 02:28:44 2009 From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 20:28:44 -0400 Subject: [TriZPUG] Python classes? In-Reply-To: <20090506192056.F2F5D141DB440@cedar.isis.unc.edu> References: <20090506192056.F2F5D141DB440@cedar.isis.unc.edu> Message-ID: <4A08C2BC.8030104@unc.edu> On 5/6/2009 3:20 PM, Tom Roche wrote: >> COMP 116 INTRO SCIENTIFIC PROG LEC 3.0 >> 91712 001 MWF 09:30AM-10:45AM BISHOP, G FB F009 OPEN >> SECTION: PYTHON SEATS AVAILABLE: 54 Thanks, Tom. I think it's a good idea to post all local Python training opportunities here, no matter when they are. Maybe you can get Dr. Bishop interested in TriZPUG. I emailed him more than once including before we started up PyCamp. We were looking for instructors and he seemed to have several Python projects listed among his interests. But I never got a reply. I'd love to have him speak to the group, especially if he's a part of the dump Matlab/adopt Python movement in scientific computing. As regards PyCamp, it will take place next at the University of Toronto, sponsored by the Department of Physics, July 13-17. The curriculum has been completely revised for 2009 based on feedback: http://trizpug.org/boot-camp/pycamp-toronto-2009/ In other news, The Definitive Guide to Plone has come out in an entirely newly updated Second Edition. It looks like it might be what we've been looking for as far as updated Plone books go: http://apress.com/book/view/1430218932 -- Sincerely, Chris Calloway http://www.secoora.org office: 332 Chapman Hall phone: (919) 599-3530 mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599 From cbc at unc.edu Mon May 18 21:07:26 2009 From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:07:26 -0400 Subject: [TriZPUG] [Fwd: 18 Contenders: Vote Now!] Message-ID: <4A11B1EE.8000100@unc.edu> The finalists for Six Feet Up's free Plone site contest are in. See below. Samaritan Health Center in Durham is one of the finalists. I encourage you to vote for them at the link below. Samaritan Health Center provides volunteer medical and dental care to the homeless clients of the Durham Rescue Mission and Good Samaritan Inn. -- Sincerely, Chris Calloway http://www.secoora.org office: 332 Chapman Hall phone: (919) 599-3530 mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: 18 Contenders: Vote Now! Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:59:20 -0400 From: connected at lists.immersive-training.net Reply-To: connected at lists.immersive-training.net To: connected at lists.immersive-training.net Greetings! We are pleased to announce that we have had 18 wonderful non-profit organizations apply. As part of an innovative training format, the Plone Immersive Training Experience attendees will work on developing an enterprise quality content management system for one of these contenders. The voting is now open and we encourage you to go to http://immersive-training.net/non-profits/ and select your favorite 3 organizations that you might like to benefit. The voting will close on June 5th and the winner will be announced shortly thereafter. You can only vote once, so please pass the word around to as many people as possible! We wish the best of luck to all of the contenders. Thank you, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker CEO -- S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x601 gabrielle at sixfeetup.com ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, 2009 http://www.sixfeetup.com/immerse _______________________________________________ Connected mailing list Connected at lists.immersive-training.net http://lists.immersive-training.net/mailman/listinfo/connected From cbc at unc.edu Fri May 22 19:50:24 2009 From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:50:24 -0400 Subject: [TriZPUG] Plone 4 Progress Message-ID: <4A16E5E0.8070002@unc.edu> Some of you may be interested in this presentation from Geir Baekholt about progress on Plone 4: http://www.slideshare.net/baekholt/plone-4-and-5-plans-and-progress -- Sincerely, Chris Calloway http://www.secoora.org office: 332 Chapman Hall phone: (919) 599-3530 mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599 From cbc at unc.edu Fri May 22 20:08:42 2009 From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:08:42 -0400 Subject: [TriZPUG] TriZPUG News Item: TriZPUG Sponsors ZopeSkel Sprint at Plone Symposium East 2009 Message-ID: <4A16EA2A.1060708@unc.edu> http://plone.org/events/regional/plone-symposium-east-2009/ -- Sincerely, Chris Calloway http://www.secoora.org office: 332 Chapman Hall phone: (919) 599-3530 mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599 From cbc at unc.edu Fri May 22 20:42:00 2009 From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:42:00 -0400 Subject: [TriZPUG] [Fwd: 220+ votes received so far!] Message-ID: <4A16F1F8.8090209@unc.edu> Right now, Samaritan Health Center in Durham is 21 votes behind first place to get a free Plone site. Please vote for them if you haven't already. -- Sincerely, Chris Calloway http://www.secoora.org office: 332 Chapman Hall phone: (919) 599-3530 mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: 220+ votes received so far! Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:37:42 -0400 From: connected at lists.immersive-training.net Reply-To: connected at lists.immersive-training.net To: connected at lists.immersive-training.net Greetings! We are happy to announce we have received over 200 votes to help select which non-profit the Plone Immersive Training Experience event will benefit. Here are the scores as of this morning: Winton Woods Educational Foundation: 224 Samaritan Health Center: 203 Family Voices, Inc. / Kids as Self Advocates (KASA) Project: 170 Engineers Without Borders - USA - Northeast Region: 140 Edelweiss Equine Assisted Therapy Center, Inc.: 99 Indy Food Cooperative, Inc.: 89 Enlace Comunitario: 76 Nest: 53 Environmental Cleanup Coalition: 46 Global Lives Project: 37 Win-Win Resolutions, Inc: 37 House of the Roses: 36 Historic Urban Neighborhoods of Indianapolis (HUNI): 34 free103point9 (WGXC): 22 NonProfit Organizations Knowledge Initiative: 21 Davis Legacy Soccer Club: 20 Fulbright Association: 16 Girotondo Italian School Foundation: 13 City cooperative development office of davao: 8 The above results were obtained by adding weights: first choices get a weight of 3, second choices a weight of 2, while third choices count as one. Keep passing the word around! Voting will end on June 5th, 2009. http://immersive-training.net/non-profits Thank you, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker CEO -- S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x601 gabrielle at sixfeetup.com ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, 2009 http://www.sixfeetup.com/immerse _______________________________________________ Connected mailing list Connected at lists.immersive-training.net http://lists.immersive-training.net/mailman/listinfo/connected