[Tutor] [firstname.lastname@example.org: Auto-response for your message
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tim at johnsons-web.com
Mon Mar 15 20:05:12 EST 2004
Danny: I'm forwarding this as an assumption that you
are the python list maintainer now.
My apology if I've forwarded this to the wrong person...
I get a message like this from time to time.
FYI, to the best of my memory, I've been continuously on this
list for about 3 years now..... I.E: I'm not new to the
list, I just don't post a lot. Guess that makes me a
Thought the list maintainer might like to know,
as this is kind of an error.
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:31:42 -0500
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Subject: Auto-response for your message to the "Tutor" mailing list
To: tim at johnsons-web.com
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