[Tutor] IDLE problems, recommend a good IDE ?

[Dave S]

Tim Johnson wrote:

>* Dave S <pythontut at pusspaws.net> [040525 01:56]:
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>>Ive been learning on IDLE, which has been great but I have had 
>>occasional stability problems, which are a bit
>>disconcerting. It just locked up X on my gentoo system :-(  Anyhow Im 
>>back now -
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>  Hi Dave: Before you 'switch', are you absolutley certain that
>  there aren't system problems causing your IDLE problems?
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I think they are - my system is rock solid (thats torn it ;-) ). When 
using IDLE, IDLE has suddenly crashed
disappearing off my X screen. The latest & most serious event being a 
total X lockup when trying to open a file
via IDLE.

>  I use gvim (graphical Vi Much Improved) and vim extensively for
>  python programming. There are extensive python plugins for
>  vim that make it a very nice IDE. 
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>  You can in fact, compile the python interpreter directly into vim so
>  that you can modify or 'drive' your 'python IDE' using python code.
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That sounds interesting .... I never knew VIM could be configured to 
become more Python friendly .. I
thought syntax highlighting was the limit. I have experience of VIM in 
the past but struggled.

Where can I find out about this ... VIM site ?

>  There there is GNU Emacs and Xemacs. Unlike vim, these are modeless
>  editors with complex key mappings and are 'driven' by LISP. So
>  some level of LISP skill would help.
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Never got on with emacs ... its a personal choice thing ...

>  Both lineages have both rabid fans and those who hate'm. I like
>  them both and couldn't do without them as a programmer.
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>  JMTCW
>  tj
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>>Thanks to alt-sysreq-r I didn't have to re-boot.
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>>Can anybody recomend a good python IDE, Something functional without too 
>>many gizmos !
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>  P.S. : 
>  From your statement above, you want something simple? Simple is
>  easy to learn are hard to make really productive IMHO.
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Im also looking at eric3, I was put off by the number of 'gizmos' but 
some of them gizmos seem usefull !
(Breakpoints & the like)

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>>Im running Gentoo 1.4 though I am happy to compile from source if needbe.
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>>Dave
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