[Tutor] Idle needles
Lobster
zen45800 at zen.co.uk
Sat Feb 12 16:34:03 CET 2005
Danny Yoo wrote:
>On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Lobster wrote:
>
>
>
>>Idols subprocess didn't make connection Either Idle can't start or
>>personal firewall is blocking the connection =========
>>
>>Now I am getting the added message that the "socket connection is
>>refused" (recently updated to the latest Zone Alarm)
>>
>>
>
>Hi Ed,
>
>That's further evidence that suggests that Zone Alarm is fighting IDLE.
>
>
>Let me see... here's a section of the IDLE documentation README that talks
>about this issue:
>
>"""
>IDLE displays a new message upon startup: some "personal firewall"
> kinds of programs (for example, ZoneAlarm) open a dialog of their
> own when any program opens a socket. IDLE does use sockets, talking
> on the computer's internal loopback interface. This connection is not
> visible on any external interface and no data is sent to or received
> from the Internet. So, if you get such a dialog when opening IDLE,
> asking whether to let pythonw.exe talk to address 127.0.0.1, say yes,
> and rest assured no communication external to your machine is taking
> place. If you don't allow it, IDLE won't be able to start.
>"""
>
>
>
Yes I did read that Danny - many thanks
>Just to nail this issue down: try turning ZoneAlarm off, just for a
>moment, and then start up IDLE. (You can always turn ZoneAlarm back on
>after this experiment.) If you don't see any problems with IDLE, then
>it's almost certainly a ZoneAlarm vs. IDLE confrontation, and we can focus
>on that.
>
>Good luck to you!
>
Turned off Zone Alarm
and closed down IDLE
on opening IDLE - I got the socket error message
and the other error message
- so not zone alarm (it seems)
- closing down IDLE and pressing ctrl alt and del
I notice that 3 copies of pythonw are in memory
I closed these down and IDLE is working again
What I am going to do next is download the excellent
Byte of Python tutorial and work offline with firefox and see what happens
- any other ideas welcome
(the only other thing I have different in IDLE is I store my Python docs in
my docs rather than the default - probably irrelevant but . . .)
Thank you very much for helping with this - it is holding me up
and I am rearing to "go with the snake. . ."
:-)
Ed Jason (aka Dragon Shrimp - aka Lobster)
PS - had a look at Crimson Editor and PSpad - very good but not quite for me
I rather like IDLE - it is specific - focussed
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