[Tutor] challenges - general

[Alberto Troiano]

Hey

I have recently got stuck (jejeje) on riddle 7

Yes!!!! I managed to solve riddle 6 after hours of struggle with the 
................ riddle

Now I don't know what to do because there is no hint anywhere

Regarding to Denise I would say don't give up, I didn't know anything that 
helped to solve riddle 6 but doing a little research and playing with IDLE I 
managed to get what I was looking for

Thanks
Alberto

>From: "D. Hartley" <denise.hartley at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: "D. Hartley" <denise.hartley at gmail.com>
>To: Python tutor <tutor at python.org>
>Subject: [Tutor] challenges - general
>Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:10:35 -0700
>
>Hello, everyone!
>
>Well after hours of struggle, I finally managed to get the peak riddle
>solved.  Very frustrating, but I think I learned a lot.
>
>However on the channel one - I cant get any ideas. It may just be best
>for me to bow out at this point.  One of my biggest problems has been
>that not only is python a new language to me, but it's my first step
>into programming at all: so many of the subjects that have come up in
>these riddles are "background information" i didnt have.  Also very
>good things for me to learn (I'll have to learn a lot of non-python
>stuff if I want to learn programming!) but it does make it difficult
>at this beginning stage.  It's too bad they dont have something like
>"Jr. Python Challenges" (!!)
>
>Actually, perhaps this is something you guys would know about! In your
>own learning python (or as you watched others learn, if you're one of
>the resident experts), have you come across some good challenges for
>python learners?
>
>I have worked on some, but here's what I have found:
>
>Too easy:  every tutorial in the universe has a "guess my number"
>game, and there are only so many times you can create that one ;)
>
>Too much explanation:  My current python book teaches by way of
>creating games, which I think is a great approach (that's what I'm
>interested in anyway).  But it gives explicit instructions on how to
>do every single step.  The end-of-chapter "additional challenges" have
>proved to be closest to what I am looking for: problems that take
>creative thinking, further research, and/or lots of experimentation to
>figure out.  For instance - of course it had the guess my number game,
>but the chapter-end problem was to flip the roles so that the computer
>tried to guess the user's number. Not terribly difficult, but fun to
>work with.
>
>Too little explanation/direction: At least for a beginner, it's
>helpful to have some idea of what you're trying to do ;) I also worked
>with the Livewires worksheets, altho there were a couple of their
>suggested exercises I could not get (for instance: when I was working
>on my space invaders game and trying to figure out how to render text
>onto the screen, one of the livewires extra tasks was to do something
>exactly like that. But it didnt have anything about rendering text in
>the course!)
>
>I think a really good example was the Regular Expressions puzzle in
>the python challenges.  I didnt know anything about regular
>expressions, but there was enough of a hint so that I could find the
>right module/library/direction, and, after reading it through a
>handful of times and trying a bunch of things out (with a helpful
>nudge or two in the right direction), I could solve the riddle *and* I
>really feel like I learned something about regular expressions.  I
>definitely do want to learn some of these more complicated topics, and
>I think that challenge really worked for me.
>
>So if anyone has a source of other challenges, I would really love to
>see them.  I need things to practice on! :) I like the way the python
>challenges are set up, I'm just stuck where I am right now and there's
>only the one to work on at a time so I'm pretty much at a loss there,
>at the moment. I know there are a lot of new learners here who would
>probably also appreciate challenges to try!
>
>~Denise
>P.S. I still keep looking at riddle #6, even tho it's getting me
>nowhere. I might try just searching python docs for channels or loops
>or zippers or something. ha ha ;)
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