[Tutor] MySQLdb for Python 2.5? (Debian related)

tetsuo2k6 at web.de tetsuo2k6 at web.de
Thu Jan 24 12:48:37 CET 2008

Michael Langford schrieb:
>> However, Debian is known for stability and security, right? I don't know
>> if I should install things without apt in a production environment, so I
>> first have to ask my guru if it's alright.
> The *point* of buildout is that the entire installation is *local* to
> the application. There is no change system wide, just for the
> application that is running. This is *much* safer than using the
> system package manager. Its like running a standalone exe like putty
> on windows, versus installing a microsoft product.
>        --Michael

We're already considering to use the cheese shop for for all our Python 

Again, thanks a lot for the hint!

- Paul

>> Michael Langford schrieb:
>>> It's a distribution issue. As far as what I've found as having cutting
>>> edge (or even reasonably fresh) python packages in your package
>>> manager is dictated by the distro, who vary wildly in this.
>>> Debian SID at times> All the Ubuntus > Debian SID at times> Fedora
>>> Core > Debian testing > Debian stable
>>> This is the #1 reason I use ubuntu on servers right now. And if the
>>> above is wrong now, these are generally feelings about a small sample
>>> set over a period of time. I really have just gone all Kubuntu/Xubuntu
>>> where I can these days.
>>> I will suggest you look into learning eggs, cheese shop and
>>> easy_install as an alternative to OS based package management for
>>> python. I was an awesome presentation by Brandon Rhodes Mill about
>>> Buildout  at PyAtl a couple weeks ago. It automagically downloads all
>>> the eggs you need. You just create a setup.py and a quick config file,
>>> and check those in with your source. When you run a command when you
>>> start developing on a checkout, it pulls down all the eggs you need to
>>> work with that checkout from the cheeshop, putting them in a project
>>> local directory, which is then prepended to the python search path for
>>> that project.
>>> This means site-packages and you don't have fights when you install on
>>> multiple system who may need other past versions of modules. Buildout
>>> also gets the right version of python on the machine ( in a local
>>> directory again ) and is compatible with system where you don't have
>>> root access.
>>> Buildout was originally written by the Zope people I believe, but has
>>> been made independent of zope so all of us non-zope people can use it.
>>>           --Michael
>>> Cheese Shop: www.python.org/pypi
>>> Monty Python Cheese Shop Skit: www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0
>>> Buildout: www.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout
>>> More about Eggs: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/PythonEggs
>>> PyAtl (where presumably his talk will be posted): http://pyatl.org/
>>> On Jan 23, 2008 11:01 AM,  <tetsuo2k6 at web.de> wrote:
>>>> I decided to install Python2.5 on the server machine to save me the time
>>>> for low-level debugging >;) but it doesn't find the MySQLdb module...
>>>> I searched through aptitude - the only thing I find is MySQLdb for Py2.4
>>>> ... What's happening here?
>>>> I have to say that the client PC (on which my script runs fine with 2.5)
>>>> has Ubuntu installed - can it be that the MySQLdb module is behind in
>>>> Debian?
>>>> Sorry for going off topic - if you guys don't want that here can move
>>>> the problem to the Debian list - but maybe someone here knows about the
>>>> status of the packages...?
>>>> - Paul
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