[Tutor] QUESTION REGARDING STATUS OF MY SUBSCRIPTION FW: Auto-response for your message to the "Tutor" mailing list

Fri Apr 16 10:08:48 CEST 2010

GREETINGS,

THIS EMAIL WOULD INDICATE THAT I AM ON THE SUBSCRIPTION
LIST.

HOWEVER, I GOT ANOTHER EMAIL, THAT CAME IN AT PRECISELY THE
SAME TIME AS THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE THAT I AM FORWARDING YOU.
THAT INDICATES THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE ADDING ME TO THE
LIST. I'VE PASTED IT IN THE BLOCK OF TEXT BELOW, BUT ABOVE
THE EMAIL THAT I AM FORWARDING YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
Peter Meagher

-------------------EMAIL INDICATING ISSUE PASTED BELOW

The results of your email command are provided below.
Attached is your original message.

- Results:
    Invalid confirmation string.  Note that confirmation
strings expire approximately 3 days after the initial
subscription request.  If your confirmation has expired,
please try to re-submit your original request or message.

- Unprocessed:
    RE: Your confirmation is required to join the Tutor
mailing list
    Thank you
    -----Original Message-----
    From: tutor-bounces+ppmeagher=gmail.com at python.org
    [mailto:tutor-bounces+ppmeagher=gmail.com at python.org] On
    Behalf Of

tutor-confirm+fe41d06d04b6e46925e0b5da4b2e115760b4f2bd at pytho
    n.org
    Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 12:35 AM
    To: ppmeagher at gmail.com
    Subject: Your confirmation is required to join the Tutor
    mailing list
    Mailing list subscription confirmation notice for
mailing
    list Tutor
    We have received a request from 96.224.37.102 for
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-----Original Message-----
From: tutor-bounces+ppmeagher=gmail.com at python.org
[mailto:tutor-bounces+ppmeagher=gmail.com at python.org] On
Behalf Of tutor-bounces at python.org
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:34 AM
To: ppmeagher at gmail.com
Subject: Auto-response for your message to the "Tutor"
mailing list

Your message for tutor at python.org, the Python programming
tutor list,
has been received and is being delivered.  This automated
response is
sent to those of you new to the Tutor list, to point out a
few
resources that can help with answering your own questions,
or improve
the chances of getting a useful answer from the other
subscribers.

If your question is something akin to:

    "I've just heard about Python, and it sounds great!
Where can I
     find out more on how to program with Python?"

  or:

     "What's Python?"

please read section 1 below.

On the other hand, if your question is:

    "I've heard that Python is good for hacking -- I want to
know
more!"

  or

    "Can you teach me how to break into a computer with
Python?"

please read section 2 at the bottom of this email.

Section 1: ----------

The most comprehensive overview of python.org help resources
is at

  http://www.python.org/Help.html

The Python FAQ is available at

  http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html 

and it has answers to many questions that people ask,
possibly
including your question.  Another wealth of information and
experience
can be found via the python.org searches, at

  http://www.python.org/search/

There you'll find comprehensive, easy-to-use searches over
the
python.org web site and the Python newsgroup,
comp.lang.python.

Python has an online tutorial, available freely from

  http://www.python.org/doc/current/tutorial/index.html

Finally, when you do send email to the Tutor list, be as
clear as you
can about the problem, including, when relevant, details
like:

 - Precise error messages, including complete tracebacks    
 - The hardware platform (available in the Python sys module
as
sys.platform)
 - The python version (sys.version) 
 - The python search path (sys.path)

In general, be specific about what was going on connected
with the
problem or what specific concept you're having difficulties
with.  The
better the info you provide, the more likely the helpers
will be able
to glean the answer...

There's a HOWTO that shows how to ask "smart" questions to
technical
folks:

http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Although it is provocative, it does have some good points,
and is an
interesting read.

Note that no one is paid to read the tutor list or provide
answers,
and most readers often have other work that demands their
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Well-posed requests for help are usually answered fairly
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please feel
free to send a followup, asking whether anyone is working on
your
question.

Anyway, your message is being delivered to the Tutor list as
this one
is being sent.  However, if your question was about as
detailed as
"Teach me how to program in Python", do not count on an
answer -- this
email contains all the information you need to start.  Come
back with
a more precise question, and we'll be glad to help.

Thanks!

Section 2: ----------

We periodically get requests which ask about hacking or
cracking or
breaking into computers.  If you haven't yet, go read Eric
Raymond's
article "How To Become a Hacker" at
  http://catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

If, after you've read that, you want help learning how to
hack the way
Eric defines the word, then come back to us (and read
Section 1
above).  If you want help learning how to crack, go look
elsewhere --
we're not interested in helping you do that.