[Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

[Joel Goldstick]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Steve Willoughby <steve at alchemy.com> wrote:

>
> On 16-Jun-2013, at 11:35, Steven D'Aprano <steve at pearwood.info> wrote:
>
> > On 17/06/13 03:59, Steve Willoughby wrote:
> >>
> >> On 16-Jun-2013, at 10:49, Jim Mooney <cybervigilante at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 16 June 2013 01:43, Roel Schroeven <roel at roelschroeven.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Can't you disable that behavior somewhere in the settings of your
> IDE? I
> >>>> know IDEs do that to be helpful, but I don't like it and so far I've
> been
> >>>> able to disable it in all IDEs I've used.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> VIM sounds good but I don't think there's a version for Windows.
> >>
> >> There's a version of VIM for about everything, including Windows and OS
> X.
> >
> > Pfft! VIM. VIM is not the standard editor. There is only one standard
> editor, ed. That's why it's called an EDitor, not a VIMitor.
>
>
> Pfft. Only for people who can't handle using the Real One True Editor:
> TECO.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TECO_(text_editor)
>

I remember teco.  It could do anything  -- a line editor and text processor
all in one.  Then I worked on a Data General project and had to use SPEED.

I think VIM is somehow a descendent of  TECO

>
> steve
>
>
> Although I admit back in my MSDOS days I found a copy of ED which was
> ported there since it was at least infinitely better than EDLIN.
> And to be fair, VIM grew out of the classic vi which itself grew directly
> out of ed, so there's a little ed hiding in VIM trying to escape.
>
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