[Tutor] Good Text Editor/IDE for Python

[Derek Jenkins]

Juan,

Besides Kwrite, I actually use the tools that the others mentioned so
far, although I don't use Emacs often at all (perhaps I have just not
found an advantageous use for it yet). So no real added info here, but
I will say that I've not personally ran into any problems with
Sublime.

For Windows, if you must continue to use it, I can venture to suggest
you give Notepad++ a whirl for a text editor. I have used it on a
handful of occasions and it _generally_ seemed okay enough to keep it
in mind for a rainy day, such as right now. As for PyCharm, I have 0
experience with that so I can't offer any suggestions.



On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Cameron Simpson <cs at zip.com.au> wrote:
> On 01Sep2014 11:13, Steven D'Aprano <steve at pearwood.info> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 09:12:24PM -0300, Juan Christian wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been using PyCharm to code in Python but it seems a bit
>>> "overpowered"
>>> for this task, and there are some annoying bugs. I used Sublime Text 2 in
>>> the past, but it seems to be dead now (last update was JUN/2013), so I
>>> don't really know any good options.
>>>
>>> What do you guys use to code?
>
> [...]
>>
>> You don't say what operating system you're using. I use Linux, and as
>> far as I am concerned, the best IDE for Linux is Linux itself: [...]
>>
>> http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/series/unix-as-ide/
>>
>> http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/ide-culture-vs-unix-philosophy/
>
>
> I'm mostly on OSX, but of course that is a UNIX platform as well:-) So my
> IDE is somewhat like Steven's. BTW, there are many many discussions in the
> python-list archives on the various development environments people use.
>
>
>> My IDE is:
>>
>> - A good programmer's editor, ideally one that supports a tabbed
>>  interface. I normally use kate (from KDE 3, not KDE 4) or geany, or
>>  at a pinch kwrite although it's not tabbed.
>
>
> I'm a vim user, and use it for everything (email, programming, any other
> plain text editing). I've been using vi since, um, maybe 1985, and my
> fingers know it. Of course, I use emacs editing keystrokes (a very limited
> subset of it, anyway) in interactive shells, including the Python
> interactive prompt; it is better in that scenario for me because it is
> modeless - vi is modal, which I find a win for coding.
>
> I don't use tabs or subwindows/panes in the editor. I do use tabs in the
> terminal (and my editor runs in a pane in my terminal).
>
>
>> - A web browser, for looking up documentation and doing web searches.
>
>
> Me too. And I find it very useful to have local copies of the Python doco on
> my desktop; accessing a local copy is really fast and also works when
> offline. I keep a local copy of the latest Python 2 and Python 3 doco to
> hand. This does rely on the doco having a good page size choice; I like a
> "page" to be a chapter. The Python doco does this well, a "page" per module.
> By contrast, the PostgreSQL doco is extremely finely sliced and very
> irritating to browse.
>
> I use tabs heavily in the web browser.
>
>
>> - A good tabbed terminal application. Konsole from KDE is my
>>  preferred choice, but just about any one will do.
>
>
> On OSX the winning choice is iTerm2; I use it exclusively. Tabs and also
> subpanes. It has many good features.
>
>
>> In the terminal, I'll open anything up to half a dozen tabs. One for
>> running source control (git or hg) and other utilities, another for
>> running the application I'm writing and performing tests, and at least
>> one interactive Python session for trying out small snippets and looking
>> up interactive help.
>
>
> I use a tab per dev environment. (So a tab for my main project, and I use
> another tab for whichever of its branches I'm working in.)
>
> Within each tab I usually split the tab into 3 vertical panes: an editor in
> the middle )terminal running vim, for me) and a shell on either side. I open
> python interactive prompts at need as opposed to Steven's always-open
> instance. On occasions I split the vertical panes horizontally when I need
> an extra terminal for something short term.
>
>
>> Just recently, I've customised my interactive Python with a powerful set
>> of tab completion commands, similar to that provided by IPython. While
>> typing, if I hit tab, it will try to complete the current variable,
>> function, module or file name. I don't know how I programmed without it
>> all these years :-)
>
>
> I must try that sometime.
>
> Cheers,
> Cameron Simpson <cs at zip.com.au>
>
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> metres
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