[Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

[Jon Paris]

On Jul 23, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Alan Gauld <alan.gauld at btinternet.com> wrote:

> On 23/07/15 20:10, Jon Paris wrote:
> 
>> Anyway - thanks again. You’re the first “friendly face” I’ve encountered here.
> 
> Hi Jon, that slightly worries me as list moderator.
> 
> Can you explain what you mean (off list if you prefer).
> You received many answers to your original query and
> none of them seemed unfriendly to me?

And I think the fact it didn’t seem unfriendly to you sums up the problem Alan. 

I came asking what I thought was a simple question. What I got for the most part was (I felt) somewhat patronizing and subsequently treated me like an idiot for not knowing the local etiquette. That’s certainly the way it seemed to me. This to me just seems to be something that happens more on the Unix/Linux oriented lists of this world which are not, as I said before, my natural habitat.

> Mark commented on the top posting but even that was
> a polite request advising you of the list etiquette.
> It didn't seem particularly unfriendly?

Again it may not have seemed unfriendly to you - but it did to me. Polite? Yes - but total overkill. Wouldn’t a simple “The preference for this list is to either embed your responses in the original message or to put your response at the end of the original.” and a link to the guidelines have been enough?

> We do try to make the tutor list a safe place to learn
> and ask questions, for beginners of every level and
> background. (Although your comment about Python being
> slightly Unixy-geek oriented is true enough, as it
> is for most non MS specific programming languages.)

My background is not MS. I’m from the IBM i midrange world. All I can say is that when I first got into PHP some years ago I found the community a little friendlier - and that was on lists that did not purport to be for newbies.

I’m sure this list does a great job and hopefully if I have to come back again I’ll feel better about it. Right now my entire experience (excluding Laura who went above and beyond to be helpful) left me feeling like an ignorant child who has been chastised for not following rules he did not know about.

Anyway I’ve wasted more than enough of my and your time on this - I will try to be better behaved in the future.

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Jon Paris
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