[Tutor] OOP, classes ,

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Did I miss any comments or replies or updates or even a thank you from the one asking a rather vague and extremely broad question?

Is that normal here? I naively expect some give and take.

With no further feedback, I won't participate in what may never have been someone wanting specific help. Are there spammers here?

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On Oct 3, 2022, 2:46 PM, Alan Gauld via Tutor wrote:

> On 03/10/2022 11:30, Mert Oner via Tutor wrote: > I am studying python with the help of a book called ' Learn Python3 > The Hard Way' by Zed Shaw. I am having a really hard time understanding > OOP and classes, grandparent, parent and child concepts in classes and > Inheritance vs Comparison. OOP and classes are two related but separate issues. Many people find them confusing so don't worry about it, you are not alone. OOP is a style of programming where you organise the program as a set of objects that communicate by sending messages to each other. This is a very different way of thinking about program structure compared to the traditional hierarchy of function calls acting on some central data stores. Each object can be thought of as a little independant program processing messages from the other programs(ie objects) around it. Each object has its own internal data and the only way to read or modify that data is by sending a message to the object. Each object has its own method of processing the messages it receives. Many different objects can be sent the same message but each object type will respond differently - they have different methods of handling the same message. This is called polymorphism. OOP is often implemented within a language by providing a structure called a class. Such a language is often called Object Based or Object Oriented. The difference being whether it supports inheritance(OOPL) or not (OBPL). You can do OOP in either (or neither!). A class is a container structure which can hold both data and functions. Functions can be connected to messages (eg by having the same name) in which case they are the object's methods. Not every function in a class needs to be a method (private internal functions used by the methods for example). A class is effectively a data type definition (like int, float, string etc) and it is used to create instances of the type which are the actual objects used in OOP. But objects can be used in non-OOP programs too when they become simple instances of a user defined type. Then they can be used alongside the built-in types to create hybrid style programs. Hybrid programs are by far the most common kind seen in the real world. Pure OOP is only worthwhile for certain problem types and sizes(generally big complex problems related to real-world objects.) We use classes and objects to model many different types of object. They can be real-world physical entities such as cars, vehicles, animals etc They can be real-world abstract concepts such as shapes, bank-accounts, calendars etc They can also be computer science or math data types such as a bag or stack or directed graph etc. Any concept which has both data (or "state" - alive, dead, active, visible, hidden etc) as well as operations that alter (or read) that data can be an object. That's kind of a layman's description of OOP and Classes/objects. You need to ask more specific questions for more specific answers. I mentioned inheritance but deliberately didn't elaborate because it brings a whole extra set of complications. Best to grasp the core concepts first. And then, of course, you need to find out how python chooses to implement all these core ideas. For a different approach (with code/examples)you can try reading the OOP topic in my tutorial(see link below). -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ http://www.amazon.com/author/alan_gauld Follow my photo-blog on Flickr at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alangauldphotos _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor at python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor