[Web-SIG] So what's missing?
Ian Bicking
ianb at colorstudy.com
Sat Oct 25 01:03:20 EDT 2003
On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 10:32 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
> Client-side:
To client-side, I would add that authentication is too hard in urllib2,
and only works for HTTP (for trivially reasons). I think think
urllib2's subclasses are unnecessarily complicated -- authentication
handling could be put directly in the HTTP/HTTPS, both basic and
digest. Goes together with post/multipart, and I think these shouldn't
be too hard to add.
There is also some talk about putting urllib2 and urlparse together,
i.e., have a URL object. The distinction between the urllib, urllib2,
and urlparse libraries is not very good, e.g., urllib.quote (and
friends) are more related to urlparse than urllib. A URL object could
unify all these.
Cookie handling also fits into this, but from the opposite direction
from a URL object, since we are creating something of a user agent.
You'd almost want to do:
ua = UserAgent()
url = web.URL('http://whatever.com')
content = ua.get(url)
Or something like that. I think an explicit agent is called for,
separate from the URLs that it may retrieve. But only when you start
considering cookies and caching.
If you want to take it a little further, WebDAV URLs support a bunch of
other features. Nice to at least keep the door open for that.
> Server-side:
>
> * Server-side SSL support in the socket module, and some interface to
> management of certificates/identities for SSL. I want to build
> HTTPS servers with Python.
>
> * Some kind of response object usable in CGI scripts. This would make
> a few simple actions simple: write a response as a file (instead of
> using sys.stdout), return an error with a message, redirect to
> another URL, return a file.
I'd still really like to get a response and request object, first
implemented for CGI but possible to target to other environments. It's
because I really want this that I didn't want us to get too
experimental -- just a request and response object are very doable, and
would be a real accomplishment. But we can get off track with this.
Good (standard) Python libraries aren't frameworks, they are
straight-forward, well-documented interfaces, which is all I'm looking
for here.
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