[Web-SIG] Can't we all just get along? (was: Re: wsgiconfig design)
jim at zope.com
Sun Jul 8 13:31:05 CEST 2007
On Jul 7, 2007, at 3:01 PM, Ian Bicking wrote:
> Jim Fulton wrote:
>> On Jul 6, 2007, at 11:41 PM, Ian Bicking wrote:
>>> Every so often I get in this cleanup/redux mood where I feel a
>>> need to
>>> revisit things I've done before in an attempt to Do Them Right.
>>> We've discussed Paste Deploy here before, and I'm thinking about
>>> It Right.
>>> I thought I'd share some thoughts on the design:
>>> I still am quite happy with the entry points from Paste Deploy,
>>> and plan
>>> to keep them,
>> Me too. In fact, I'd really like them to have their own identity
>> independent if Paste Deploy. People should start supporting these
>> entry points even if they use some other application to put them
> I've tried to encourage people to use this, but they get stuck on the
> word "paste", so there's not many other people who consume or produce
> these entry points except for use with Paste or related packages
> (Pylons, etc). I'm not sure what to do about that, except perhaps to
> reset people's opinions with this rewrite.
Well, this touches a nerve with me. I have a similar problem with
people rejecting out of hand anything that happens to live in the
zope or even the zc namespace. Similarly, at PyCon, I try to always
give at least talk that I think will be generally interesting to the
Python community at large, yet many people tend to assume that these
are Zope specific. I think this behavior is extremely unhealthy for
the Python community. Paste deploy is the only effort I've seen to
provided a much-needed glue layer for WSGI. It doesn't matter one
bit to me what it's called. It tries to fill a basic need. Now I'm
all for competition. If someone really wanted to come up with
something better, then I wouldn't mind seeing someone try, but
nothing else is happening AFAICT. I certainly have other things I
want to work on. Paste Deploy is a really good start and, FWIW, the
Zope community is embracing it.
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