[Web-SIG] PEP 444 (aka Web3)

[Massimo Di Pierro]

sorry. Apologies

On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:

> Um, talk about a whopper of a topic change. None of that is on the
> table. Maybe for Python 4. And certainly not in web-sig.
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Massimo Di Pierro
> <mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>> Not sure this discussion belongs here but since you asked:
>>
>> I think it should have takes three/four more bold steps:
>> 1) address the GIL issue completely by removing reference counting
>> 2) add more support for lightweight threads (like stackless, erlang  
>> and go)
>> 3) perhaps allow some mechanism for tainting data and do restricted
>> execution
>> 4) change name to avoid confusion
>> ... and yet stress that it was almost 100% compatible with existing  
>> python
>> code.
>>
>> I think a lot more people would have jumped on it from outside the  
>> existing
>> community.
>> The future is in multi core processors and lightweight threads.
>>
>> Of course I am not a developer and I do realize these things may be  
>> hard to
>> accomplish.
>> I also trust Guido's judgement more than my own in this respect so  
>> consider
>> mine a wish more than a realistic suggestion.
>>
>> Massimo
>>
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Ty Sarna wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>>>
>>>>> My experience in various
>>>>> communities suggests that naming the new totally-bw-incompat  
>>>>> thing the
>>>>> same as the old thing weakens both the new thing and the old  
>>>>> thing,
>>>>
>>>> I share the same experience.
>>>
>>> Interesting. Do you feel that Python 3.x should have been named  
>>> something
>>> other than Python?
>>>
>>> I think that would rather have weakened both 3.x and 2.x by  
>>> suggesting a
>>> fork, placing the two in competition, when the goal was to have one
>>> supersede the other, as is also the case here.
>>>
>>
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