[Web-SIG] PEP 444 != WSGI 2.0

[Tres Seaver]

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On 01/02/2011 04:31 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Masklinn <masklinn at masklinn.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 2011-01-02, at 21:38 , Alice Bevan–McGregor wrote:
>>> On 2011-01-02 11:14:00 -0800, Chris McDonough said:
>>>>> I'd suggest we just embrace it, adding minor tweaks as necessary, until
>> we reach some sort of technical impasse it doesn't address.
>>> Async is one area that 3333 does not cover, and that by not having a
>> standard which incorporates async means competing, incompatible solutions
>> have been created.
>>>
>> If I remember the previous Web3 discussion correctly, the result was
>> basically that async has no business being shoehorned in WSGI, that WSGI's
>> model is fundamentally unfit for async and you can't correctly support sync
>> and async with the same spec, and therefore an asynchronous equivalent to
>> WSGI should be developed separately, in order to correctly match the needs
>> of asynchronous servers and interfaces, without the cruft and inadequacies
>> of being forked from a synchronous gateway model.
>>
> 
> Masklinn, those are pretty strong words (bordering on offensive). I'm sure
> Alice has a different opinion. Alice, hopefully you can write down your
> ideas for all to see? Perhaps you have an implementation too? Maybe seeing a
> concrete proposal will help us all see how big or small of a shoehorn will
> be needed.

I didn't read that as offensive, but as an accurate description of the
de-facto consensus of the SIG:  there is a *very* small minority who
want next-WSGI to address async issues (AFAIK, Alice and Manlio are the
only active proponents).


Tres.
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