[Web-SIG] Web message confirmation and Mailman upgrade

[Masklinn]

On 2012-05-19, at 13:32 , anatoly techtonik wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It really bugs me to use Mailman workflow for discussions in 2012.
> Why a WEB-SIG uses non-web technology for communicating anyway?

Because it works, it works well, and it's a standard communication tool
in and around Python? Why "fix" something which is not broken in any
way, shape or form?

> What do you think about entry barrier for new people to this list?

That it's a good thing, especially for a list as low-traffic and
involved as WEB-SIG.

> Do you know that you can't send a message without subscribing?

How is that a problem?

> So, a couple of rhetorical questions.
> What does people here feel about 'eating your own dogfood approach'?

That it does not apply, web-sig is not about creating a forum.

Unless you're talking about POST-ing directly via CURL, of course. But
I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

> Would you like to see an alternative and care a bit more inclusive?

Personally, no. I'm just fine with web-sig's once-in-a-blue-moon
message nicely landing in my inbox.

> I know that it all boils down to the "free time" and "volunteering",
> but at least we could have an actual Roadmap.

There's no point to a roadmap, if you think you can build a better
solution do it, then propose it.

> I am asking, because I've lost the --[cut]-- reply to my mail (sent
> about a week ago) inside of innards of me automatic mail filtering
> software.

Not sure how it's a Mailman problem if your filters are broken.

> Clearly, with forum it wouldn't happen.

That's debatable, and forums have a number of other issues. It's hard
to impossible (depending on the forum software) to consume them
asynchronously for instance, or to quickly see what you haven't looked
at yet; composition usually is absolutely dreadful and boxes people in
an in-browser workflow, it's also much harder to synchronize across
devices (the forum software has to support read/unread statuses
extremely well and at the comment level, I only know of a single forum
software reliable in that respect and it's *not* free. It also isn't
in Python and doesn't — as far as I know – offer a mail-based gateway).