From sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca Tue Aug 8 15:54:10 2006
From: sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca (Scott Balneaves)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:54:10 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] LdapFS.py state of the union address.
Message-ID: <20060808195410.GA31913@localdomain>
Hello, fellow PUGlings:
Well, I've done a fair amount of hacking over the last couple of weeks.
I'm not sure if any of you have been following along with the SVN tree,
but here's a brief update as to what's been accomplished:
1) As far as I can see, all the performance problems have been hammered
out:
feniks$ time ls -lR | wc
6469 51966 305525
real 0m9.814s
user 0m0.104s
sys 0m0.124s
So, to interpret, an ls -lR on my Works' LDAP directory, which produces
6.4 klines of output, takes only 9 seconds. At an average of at least
one LDAP lookup per line, I'd say that's pretty good.
2) The missing filesystem functionality's been added. Calls such as
rmdir have been added, as well as implementing proper access times
(getting the modifyTimeStamp from the LDAP directory). After some
thought, I dropped Stewart's first suggestion (of the .ldif_reader), in
favour of his second suggestion (that of an external shell script to be
called for a mkdir). It turns out that it wasn't anywhere near as
difficult to implement this as I'd thought, and it does work rather
cleanly.
3) I've added a ldapfs.conf file for config parameters. It's more like
what a standard sysadmin's going to be used to for configuration.
4) I've added an example ldapfs_mkdir file, as a (limited) example of
what needs to be done to implement the mkdir.
5) I've done some documenting in the README. Still a bit more to go on
that, but I'd be interested in comments.
So, I think we're close to 0.1. I'd appreciate anyone willing to spend
the time to give the code a once over. If anyone needs data, let me
know, and I can provide you with an example LDIF file.
Cheers!
Scott
--
Scott L. Balneaves | "Looking beyond the embers of bridges glowing behind us
Systems Department | To a glimpse of how green it was on the other side..."
Legal Aid Manitoba | -- Pink Floyd "High Hopes"
From mpfaiffer at callapple.org Wed Aug 23 11:33:34 2006
From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:33:34 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] So, what time should we meet today?
Message-ID: <200608231033.34949.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
The usual time or earlier?
Later
Mike
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From sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca Wed Aug 23 11:45:59 2006
From: sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca (Scott Balneaves)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:45:59 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] So, what time should we meet today?
In-Reply-To: <200608231033.34949.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
References: <200608231033.34949.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
Message-ID: <20060823154559.GB30626@localdomain>
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 10:33:34AM -0500, Mike Pfaiffer wrote:
> The usual time or earlier?
Hmm, I sent off a mail message asking the same thing, but I haven't seen
it hit the list yet.
I'll be there for 7:00, and I'll bring my scsi card with me.
Cheers!
Scott
--
Scott L. Balneaves | "Looking beyond the embers of bridges glowing behind us
Systems Department | To a glimpse of how green it was on the other side..."
Legal Aid Manitoba | -- Pink Floyd "High Hopes"
From sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca Wed Aug 23 10:54:05 2006
From: sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca (Scott Balneaves)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:54:05 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] On for tonight?
Message-ID: <20060823145405.GA30626@localdomain>
Hey fellow PUGlings!
We still on for tonight? Starlanes hackfest?
Beer afterwards?
Anyone? Anyone?
Scott
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Scott L. Balneaves | "Looking beyond the embers of bridges glowing behind us
Systems Department | To a glimpse of how green it was on the other side..."
Legal Aid Manitoba | -- Pink Floyd "High Hopes"
From mpfaiffer at callapple.org Wed Aug 23 11:59:45 2006
From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:59:45 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] So, what time should we meet today?
In-Reply-To: <20060823154559.GB30626@localdomain>
References: <200608231033.34949.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
<20060823154559.GB30626@localdomain>
Message-ID: <200608231059.45828.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 10:45, Scott Balneaves wrote this amazing epistle:
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 10:33:34AM -0500, Mike Pfaiffer wrote:
> > The usual time or earlier?
>
> Hmm, I sent off a mail message asking the same thing, but I haven't seen
> it hit the list yet.
>
> I'll be there for 7:00, and I'll bring my scsi card with me.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Scott
If nobody suggests an earlier time by 4:00 (the time I need to get ready for
5:00) I'll be there around 7:00.
Later
Mike
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From jason at peaceworks.ca Wed Aug 23 12:46:45 2006
From: jason at peaceworks.ca (Jason Hildebrand)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:46:45 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] So, what time should we meet today?
In-Reply-To: <200608231033.34949.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
References: <200608231033.34949.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
Message-ID: <1156351605.6912.19.camel@localhost>
I won't be able to attend tonight; sorry. Have fun, though!
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 10:33 -0500, Mike Pfaiffer wrote:
> The usual time or earlier?
>
> Later
> Mike
>
>
From mpfaiffer at callapple.org Wed Aug 23 14:05:01 2006
From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:05:01 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] So, what time should we meet today?
In-Reply-To: <20060823154559.GB30626@localdomain>
References: <200608231033.34949.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
<20060823154559.GB30626@localdomain>
Message-ID: <200608231305.01755.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 10:45, Scott Balneaves wrote this amazing epistle:
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 10:33:34AM -0500, Mike Pfaiffer wrote:
> > The usual time or earlier?
>
> Hmm, I sent off a mail message asking the same thing, but I haven't seen
> it hit the list yet.
>
> I'll be there for 7:00, and I'll bring my scsi card with me.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Scott
More on the NIC... Installed it 10 minutes ago. Speed problems fixed! Now to
figure out why KDE isn't displaying a window for ktorrent. ;-)
Later
Mike
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From syd at plug.ca Wed Aug 23 14:16:38 2006
From: syd at plug.ca (Sydney Weidman)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:16:38 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] So, what time should we meet today?
In-Reply-To: <200608231305.01755.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
References: <200608231033.34949.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
<20060823154559.GB30626@localdomain>
<200608231305.01755.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
Message-ID: <1156356998.25977.4.camel@phoenix.parit.ca>
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 13:05 -0500, Mike Pfaiffer wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 August 2006 10:45, Scott Balneaves wrote this amazing epistle:
> > On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 10:33:34AM -0500, Mike Pfaiffer wrote:
> > > The usual time or earlier?
> >
> > Hmm, I sent off a mail message asking the same thing, but I haven't seen
> > it hit the list yet.
> >
> > I'll be there for 7:00, and I'll bring my scsi card with me.
> >
> >
I tried to send this to the list earlier, but it didn't show up. Sorry i
haven't had as much time as I'd like (greater than 0 would have been
good) to work on this, but here's what i've got so far for code.
I was going to set up a subversion repository too, but I'll just send a
link to the tarball for now.
http://www.parit.ca/Members/sweidman/starlanes2-0.1.tar.gz
I'll be there early-ish perhaps just after dinner (6:00 PM or so) to try
to organize things (code-wise) a bit.
-Syd
From mpfaiffer at callapple.org Wed Aug 23 19:25:22 2006
From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:25:22 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] So, what time should we meet today?
In-Reply-To: <1156356998.25977.4.camel@phoenix.parit.ca>
References: <200608231033.34949.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
<200608231305.01755.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
<1156356998.25977.4.camel@phoenix.parit.ca>
Message-ID: <200608231825.23016.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 13:16, Sydney Weidman wrote this amazing epistle:
> On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 13:05 -0500, Mike Pfaiffer wrote:
> > On Wednesday 23 August 2006 10:45, Scott Balneaves wrote this amazing
epistle:
> > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 10:33:34AM -0500, Mike Pfaiffer wrote:
> > > > The usual time or earlier?
> > >
> > > Hmm, I sent off a mail message asking the same thing, but I haven't
> > > seen it hit the list yet.
> > >
> > > I'll be there for 7:00, and I'll bring my scsi card with me.
>
> I tried to send this to the list earlier, but it didn't show up. Sorry i
> haven't had as much time as I'd like (greater than 0 would have been
> good) to work on this, but here's what i've got so far for code.
>
> I was going to set up a subversion repository too, but I'll just send a
> link to the tarball for now.
>
> http://www.parit.ca/Members/sweidman/starlanes2-0.1.tar.gz
>
> I'll be there early-ish perhaps just after dinner (6:00 PM or so) to try
> to organize things (code-wise) a bit.
>
> -Syd
> _______________________________________________
> Winnipeg mailing list
> Winnipeg at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/winnipeg
In case you guys are already there, I'll be leaving in 5 minutes.
Later
Mike
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From sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca Tue Aug 29 14:21:45 2006
From: sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca (Scott Balneaves)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:21:45 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] ZOPE courses in town?
Message-ID: <20060829182145.GA5767@localdomain>
Hello all!
We might have need at work to write some small web-based applications in
house, and in keeping with my continued pythonization
(pythoniferousness?) ZOPE seemed to be a logical choice to start
looking.
So I dowloaded the 2.6 edition of "The Zope Book".
And printed it.
Oh.
My.
Goodness.
250 double-sided pages later, and a quick browse through, and I'm
convinced that ZOPE can do just about everything that I could ever want
in a web framework, but holy schnikies, there's a lot to learn!
I'd love to sign up for a course to get a jump-start on ZOPE. Does
anyone know if there's anything running here in Winnipeg?
Scott
--
Scott L. Balneaves | "Looking beyond the embers of bridges glowing behind us
Systems Department | To a glimpse of how green it was on the other side..."
Legal Aid Manitoba | -- Pink Floyd "High Hopes"
From jason at peaceworks.ca Tue Aug 29 14:54:03 2006
From: jason at peaceworks.ca (Jason Hildebrand)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:54:03 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] ZOPE courses in town?
In-Reply-To: <20060829182145.GA5767@localdomain>
References: <20060829182145.GA5767@localdomain>
Message-ID: <1156877643.6840.34.camel@localhost>
Hi Scott,
While you can certainly do anything with Zope, it may or may not be the
best tool, depending on what you want to do.
If the web application(s) you are looking to build are primarily
concerned with content-management, then Zope is probably a good choice.
On the other hand, if you are simply looking to build a web admin
interface to some postgres or mysql data, then there may be some better
options.
I've been using Webware for Python for years, and it's a mature
application server, with less infrastructure than Zope provides (if you
don't need the infrastructure anyways), which gets you up and running
much more quickly.
Newcomer projects include django and turbogears, which apparently allow
you to build database-UI apps very easily -- but I haven't used either
of these yet, and don't have a good feeling for their strengths and
limitations.
hope this helps,
Jason
On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 13:21 -0500, Scott Balneaves wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> We might have need at work to write some small web-based applications in
> house, and in keeping with my continued pythonization
> (pythoniferousness?) ZOPE seemed to be a logical choice to start
> looking.
>
> So I dowloaded the 2.6 edition of "The Zope Book".
>
> And printed it.
>
> Oh.
>
> My.
>
> Goodness.
>
> 250 double-sided pages later, and a quick browse through, and I'm
> convinced that ZOPE can do just about everything that I could ever want
> in a web framework, but holy schnikies, there's a lot to learn!
>
> I'd love to sign up for a course to get a jump-start on ZOPE. Does
> anyone know if there's anything running here in Winnipeg?
>
> Scott
>
From syd at plug.ca Tue Aug 29 15:52:51 2006
From: syd at plug.ca (Sydney Weidman)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:52:51 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] ZOPE courses in town?
In-Reply-To: <20060829182145.GA5767@localdomain>
References: <20060829182145.GA5767@localdomain>
Message-ID: <1156881171.29272.11.camel@phoenix.parit.ca>
I agree with Jason's good advice re: purpose. Content management
applications can be created with Zope, but Zope does have a New York
sized API. Postgres and Mysql database integration is not included "out
of the box" so to speak, but can be added in reasonably easily. Using
products like DCWorkflow and such, you can design quite sophisticated
content management applications.
There is some zope training listed on the main page of zope.org (none in
Canada, much less Winnipeg, unfortunately). One thing I would recommend
having a look at is the "Zope 3 hello world screencast":
http://zeapartners.org/scl/2006/04/25/z3-helloworld/z3-helloworld.html
Zope 3 is considerably simpler and more pythonic than older iterations
of the framework, so it may be beneficial that you haven't learned the
"bad old way" of doing things in Zope. There are a number of other good
tutorials on Zope 3 that can be found at:
http://worldcookery.com/Appetizers
Enjoy!
- Syd
From rick at centrix.ca Thu Aug 31 09:38:13 2006
From: rick at centrix.ca (Richard Fillion)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:38:13 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] Hello
Message-ID: <9B756D32-C2DE-495C-8BDA-B6F426B6AC9B@centrix.ca>
I just found out about WinniPUG, and so I figured that I should
subscribe to this list and say hello to everyone. Well... Hello
Everyone.
I guess I should introduce myself properly. I'm Rick... I recently
graduated from the University of North Dakota with a B.Sc. in CSci.
Python is one of two languages that I currently enjoy programming
(the other being Objective-C). Right now I mainly use Python for
shell scripting on the servers I admin, but I've done bigger things
with it. Mainly web applications and a whole web app framework.
I will definitely be attending meetings, and look forward to meeting
all of you.
Richard Fillion
rick at centrix.ca
From mpfaiffer at callapple.org Thu Aug 31 10:30:45 2006
From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:30:45 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] Hello
In-Reply-To: <9B756D32-C2DE-495C-8BDA-B6F426B6AC9B@centrix.ca>
References: <9B756D32-C2DE-495C-8BDA-B6F426B6AC9B@centrix.ca>
Message-ID: <200608310930.45154.mpfaiffer@callapple.org>
On Thursday 31 August 2006 08:38, Richard Fillion wrote this amazing epistle:
> I just found out about WinniPUG, and so I figured that I should
> subscribe to this list and say hello to everyone. Well... Hello
> Everyone.
>
> I guess I should introduce myself properly. I'm Rick... I recently
> graduated from the University of North Dakota with a B.Sc. in CSci.
> Python is one of two languages that I currently enjoy programming
> (the other being Objective-C). Right now I mainly use Python for
> shell scripting on the servers I admin, but I've done bigger things
> with it. Mainly web applications and a whole web app framework.
>
> I will definitely be attending meetings, and look forward to meeting
> all of you.
>
> Richard Fillion
> rick at centrix.ca
Everybody is welcome as long as they have even a remote interest in
Python. :-)
Later
Mike
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From stuartw at mts.net Thu Aug 31 10:50:22 2006
From: stuartw at mts.net (Stuart Williams)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:50:22 -0500
Subject: [Python Wpg] Hello
In-Reply-To: <9B756D32-C2DE-495C-8BDA-B6F426B6AC9B@centrix.ca>
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Message-ID: <17654.63278.210950.150835@philantrack.local>
Welcome Richard,
And welcome to the several others who have joined in the past few
weeks. Feel free to introduce yourselves if you wish. This goes for
long-time members, too.
We are now up to 22 members on the list! I'm excited about the
increased energy there will likely be at meetings this fall.
Here's my introduction. I'm a computer scientist and consultant. I
started this group last December. I taught Introduction to Computer
Science at Canadian Mennonite University using Python for the past two
years. I also ran their summer camp for high school students with
Python. I've worked alone and with others on several medium-sized
projects in Python. Most recently I started a new job doing systems
integration work in a large complex environment that at first glance
seems ripe for the kind of glue code that Python does so well. My
favourite aspect of Python is that it gives you enough rope to hang
yourself.
Stuart.