From cjnelson at shaw.ca Mon Sep 4 12:01:24 2006 From: cjnelson at shaw.ca (Chris and Janice Nelson) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:01:24 -0500 Subject: [Python Wpg] Hello Message-ID: <002e01c6d03b$5f5176a0$6600a8c0@swunsyvev4j6wp> Hi Folks: I am a newbie to Python and was introduced to it by a long time friend of mine who has gone on to develop a web based application using Python.I am looking forward to getting my feet wet with this software in the coming weeks.Looking forward to meeting everyone. Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/winnipeg/attachments/20060904/d08fe7dd/attachment.html> From sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca Tue Sep 5 10:34:07 2006 From: sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca (Scott Balneaves) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:34:07 -0500 Subject: [Python Wpg] Hello In-Reply-To: <002e01c6d03b$5f5176a0$6600a8c0@swunsyvev4j6wp> References: <002e01c6d03b$5f5176a0$6600a8c0@swunsyvev4j6wp> Message-ID: <20060905143407.GA23132@localdomain> On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:01:24AM -0500, Chris and Janice Nelson wrote: > Hi Folks: I am a newbie to Python and was introduced to it by a long timei > friend of mine who has gone on to develop a web based application using > Python.I am looking forward to getting my feet wet with this software in > the coming weeks.Looking forward to meeting everyone. > Chris Welcome. You'll find we're a small, but interesting lot. Some of the projects we've got underway: 1) Starlanes: Classic gaming with a python twist! Newer! Blingier! XML-RPCier! Made Up Adjectivier! 2) LdapFS: Esoteric LDAP administration made even more bizarre with a filesystem frontend via FUSE. All the rage on the runways of Paris and Milan! All this, plus: Language Fundamentals! Questions and Answers! Advice on your own projects! Dancing Elephants and a 3 Ring Circus!* So, come on out, and have a blast. Scott * Three ring circus not available in all areas, current zoning bylaws permitting, see user group for details, no patents pending. -- Scott L. Balneaves | "Looking beyond the embers of bridges glowing behind us Systems Department | To a glimpse of how green it was on the other side..." Legal Aid Manitoba | -- Pink Floyd "High Hopes" From aklaassen at gmail.com Fri Sep 8 10:50:10 2006 From: aklaassen at gmail.com (Aaron Klaassen) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:50:10 -0500 Subject: [Python Wpg] Hello In-Reply-To: <200608310930.45154.mpfaiffer@callapple.org> References: <9B756D32-C2DE-495C-8BDA-B6F426B6AC9B@centrix.ca> <200608310930.45154.mpfaiffer@callapple.org> Message-ID: <faa9c35c0609080750q389bcdedmb72eef7fb549d57b@mail.gmail.com> Hm. It seems the mailing list and I had a disagreement over what email address I was actually subscribed under. After a bit of a tussle, it's all been worked out, but apparently this message of mine never got posted (thanks to Stuart for pointing that out). So now sit back in your chairs and imagine a time of daisy-filled meadows and enchanted springtimes. A time of last week.... Well...since we're introducing ourselves, maybe I finally should: I'm a 4th year Computer Science student at the U of M, but so far haven't really done anything with Python. So looking at the "Topic Ideas" section on the WinniPUG website makes me wish for "Quick intro to Python for programmers." Though I did get as far as "Hello, world!" a little while ago. :) These days I mostly code in whatever language my profs tell me to...so it's a lot of C. Some C# and Java. Maybe some Lisp for flavour. With a new semester starting this week...who knows what'll be going on. I've been lurking on this mailing list for months already, but have yet to attend any of the meetings or anything; my absence due mostly to the rather crazy amount of time that can be taken up by a couple of jobs and a whole bunch of classes. :) But don't worry...I'll show up one of these days. On 8/31/06, Mike Pfaiffer <mpfaiffer at callapple.org> wrote: > > On Thursday 31 August 2006 08:38, Richard Fillion wrote this amazing > epistle: > > I just found out about WinniPUG, and so I figured that I should > > subscribe to this list and say hello to everyone. Well... Hello > > Everyone. > > > > I guess I should introduce myself properly. I'm Rick... I recently > > graduated from the University of North Dakota with a B.Sc. in CSci. > > Python is one of two languages that I currently enjoy programming > > (the other being Objective-C). Right now I mainly use Python for > > shell scripting on the servers I admin, but I've done bigger things > > with it. Mainly web applications and a whole web app framework. > > > > I will definitely be attending meetings, and look forward to meeting > > all of you. > > > > Richard Fillion > > rick at centrix.ca > > Everybody is welcome as long as they have even a remote interest > in > Python. :-) > > Later > Mike > > > > -- > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > |Call-A.P.P.L.E. and the Digital Civilization http://www.callapple.org | > | http://members.shaw.ca/pfaiffer = Mike Pfaiffer (B.A., B.Sc.) | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ----- BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK ----- > Version: 3.12 > GCS/G/IT/PA/SS d s+:- a? C++ UL L++ W++ N++ o+ K- w(---) O+@ M++@ V PS+ > PE !PGP t+ 5+ X R tv b+ DI+++ D++ G e++* h! r-- !y-- UF++ > ------ END GEEK CODE BLOCK ------ > _______________________________________________ > Winnipeg mailing list > Winnipeg at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/winnipeg > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/winnipeg/attachments/20060908/6fb7810f/attachment.html> From mpfaiffer at callapple.org Sat Sep 9 17:16:14 2006 From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 16:16:14 -0500 Subject: [Python Wpg] Hello In-Reply-To: <002e01c6d03b$5f5176a0$6600a8c0@swunsyvev4j6wp> References: <002e01c6d03b$5f5176a0$6600a8c0@swunsyvev4j6wp> Message-ID: <200609091616.14246.mpfaiffer@callapple.org> Since everybody else is posting introductions I may as well jump on the bandwagon. I'm Mike Pfaiffer. I'm a writer/programmer/designer/what ever someone wants me to do kind of guy. At the moment I am officially unemployed. Unofficially I write for the magazine listed below without pay. I'm a Python newbie (not a rank newbie since I make it a point to shower daily). ;-) The meetings are slightly over my head at the moment, but I manage to understand at least one thing every meeting. Eventually I'll catch on. My goals at the meetings vary. So far they include learning the syntax as well as the various modules. I'm trying to wrap my head around the ideas behind Object Oriented Programming (I graduated from the U of M before they started teaching it). Privately I am somewhat annoyed with some of the programs I use and think I can do a better job. I'm trying a number of (I guess this is the correct term) APIs. So far I like Idle the best. Mainly because I can change the font size in the editor and the program doesn't think it knows what I want better than I do. While emacs and vim look interesting, I prefer a GUI interface or something like nano where I can concentrate on the language rather than the editor. Later Mike -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Call-A.P.P.L.E. and the Digital Civilization http://www.callapple.org | | http://members.shaw.ca/pfaiffer = Mike Pfaiffer (B.A., B.Sc.) | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ----- BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK ----- Version: 3.12 GCS/G/IT/PA/SS d s+:- a? C++ UL L++ W++ N++ o+ K- w(---) O+@ M++@ V PS+ PE !PGP t+ 5+ X R tv b+ DI+++ D++ G e++* h! r-- !y-- UF++ ------ END GEEK CODE BLOCK ------ From stuartw at mts.net Mon Sep 25 15:28:06 2006 From: stuartw at mts.net (Stuart Williams) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:28:06 -0500 Subject: [Python Wpg] Meeting reminder Message-ID: <17688.11718.718257.876894@gavel.swilliams.ca> Don't forget this Wednesday's meeting where Jason will wow us with what I expect to be a stellar presentation on iterators and generators. I expect we'll all understand iter() and __iter__() a little bit better when he's done. Rumour has it he may also explain the co-routine possibilities opened up by the addition of yield expressions to generators in Python 2.5. I have written Python code with Jason. He's very good. Don't miss this rare opportunity. As it says on http://WinniPUG.ca, the meeting starts this Wednesday, September 27th, at 7:30 p.m. in Room 2M70 at the University of Winnipeg - on the second floor of Manitoba hall. To reach this room, head up the main escalators in Centennial Hall to the 2nd floor, turn right to head east into Manitoba hall, turn left down the hallway and look for the room on your right. Stuart. From mpfaiffer at callapple.org Mon Sep 25 22:58:28 2006 From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:58:28 -0500 Subject: [Python Wpg] Meeting reminder In-Reply-To: <17688.11718.718257.876894@gavel.swilliams.ca> References: <17688.11718.718257.876894@gavel.swilliams.ca> Message-ID: <200609252158.28841.mpfaiffer@callapple.org> On Monday 25 September 2006 14:28, Stuart Williams wrote this amazing epistle: > Don't forget this Wednesday's meeting where Jason will wow us with > what I expect to be a stellar presentation on iterators and > generators. I expect we'll all understand iter() and __iter__() a > little bit better when he's done. > > Rumour has it he may also explain the co-routine possibilities opened > up by the addition of yield expressions to generators in Python 2.5. > > I have written Python code with Jason. He's very good. Don't miss > this rare opportunity. > > As it says on http://WinniPUG.ca, the meeting starts this Wednesday, > September 27th, at 7:30 p.m. in Room 2M70 at the University of > Winnipeg - on the second floor of Manitoba hall. To reach this room, > head up the main escalators in Centennial Hall to the 2nd floor, turn > right to head east into Manitoba hall, turn left down the hallway and > look for the room on your right. > > Stuart. I'm looking forward to the meeting. Always informative. There is one question I'd like to ask. Maybe an example could be worked into the presentation... I'm about to start into learning about threads (multitasking). At the moment I'm currently working on files so talking about threads is about two to three weeks early. Last months session inspired me some more. The up side is it should allow me to replace a program I'm quite annoyed at as well as help out a little more on the OO Starlanes. I'm going to figure out object oriented programming or die trying. ;-) Later Mike -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Call-A.P.P.L.E. and the Digital Civilization http://www.callapple.org | | http://members.shaw.ca/pfaiffer = Mike Pfaiffer (B.A., B.Sc.) | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ----- BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK ----- Version: 3.12 GCS/G/IT/PA/SS d s+:- a? C++ UL L++ W++ N++ o+ K- w(---) O+@ M++@ V PS+ PE !PGP t+ 5+ X R tv b+ DI+++ D++ G e++* h! r-- !y-- UF++ ------ END GEEK CODE BLOCK ------ From jason at peaceworks.ca Mon Sep 25 23:05:40 2006 From: jason at peaceworks.ca (Jason Hildebrand) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:05:40 -0500 Subject: [Python Wpg] Meeting reminder In-Reply-To: <200609252158.28841.mpfaiffer@callapple.org> References: <17688.11718.718257.876894@gavel.swilliams.ca> <200609252158.28841.mpfaiffer@callapple.org> Message-ID: <1159239940.15801.3.camel@trotzdem.walnut.peaceworks.ca> On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 21:58 -0500, Mike Pfaiffer wrote: > There is one question I'd like to ask. Maybe an example could be worked into > the presentation... I'm about to start into learning about threads > (multitasking). At the moment I'm currently working on files so talking about > threads is about two to three weeks early. Hi Mike, Can you be specific about what kind of example you're looking for? Something to do with threads? One thread-related thing I will talk about is that generators let you avoid the complexities of working with multiple threads in certain situations. If you have a specific threading question or example you'd like to see, I'd be happy to try and address it. peace, Jason From sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca Tue Sep 26 14:00:37 2006 From: sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca (Scott Balneaves) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:00:37 -0500 Subject: [Python Wpg] Meeting reminder In-Reply-To: <17688.11718.718257.876894@gavel.swilliams.ca> References: <17688.11718.718257.876894@gavel.swilliams.ca> Message-ID: <20060926180037.GA25625@localdomain> On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 02:28:06PM -0500, Stuart Williams wrote: > Don't forget this Wednesday's meeting where Jason will wow us with > what I expect to be a stellar presentation on iterators and > generators. I expect we'll all understand iter() and __iter__() a > little bit better when he's done. I will be there with bells on. Scott -- Scott L. Balneaves | "Looking beyond the embers of bridges glowing behind us Systems Department | To a glimpse of how green it was on the other side..." Legal Aid Manitoba | -- Pink Floyd "High Hopes" From mpfaiffer at callapple.org Thu Sep 28 12:13:12 2006 From: mpfaiffer at callapple.org (Mike Pfaiffer) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:13:12 -0500 Subject: [Python Wpg] October meeting Message-ID: <200609281113.12331.mpfaiffer@callapple.org> Last night we were talking about what we were going to do for next month. I guess since I'm at the computer early today I may as well start off. We are going to be talking about Python IDEs. Those of us who are comfortable with public speaking are going to give presentations on what we've tried/used. We are going to coordinate what we are doing here so there is no overlap during the presentation. I've looked at a number of them and found I'm most comfortable with a program called IDLE. Since it sounds like I'm probably the only one using it I'll do this one. It's fairly simple so the presentation shouldn't be too long (I think about five minutes, but allocate 15 to be safe). If we are going to go from simple to complex then this presentation should be one of the first. Would it be possible for someone who is bringing in a Linux laptop to install IDLE and bring it to the meeting? I'll do a couple short "hello world" programs on the fly to illustrate some of the features in the program. If anyone wants to do a short presentation Stuart, Syd, Scott, and I rattled off a few environments at the end of the meeting. There is Eric, PyPE, Ipython, kate (more of an editor), emacs, vi, KDevelop, SPE, and pida. There are more I can't remember. Stake your claim so someone with a working printer can put the presentations in order. Best start looking at the environments early so there is more to talk about. ;-) Later Mike P.S. Good presentation Jason. Scott, could you e-mail me the source of the first file from last night. I've an application I'm working on which could use it. Why reinvent the wheel? -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Call-A.P.P.L.E. and the Digital Civilization http://www.callapple.org | | http://members.shaw.ca/pfaiffer = Mike Pfaiffer (B.A., B.Sc.) | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ----- BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK ----- Version: 3.12 GCS/G/IT/PA/SS d s+:- a? C++ UL L++ W++ N++ o+ K- w(---) O+@ M++@ V PS+ PE !PGP t+ 5+ X R tv b+ DI+++ D++ G e++* h! r-- !y-- UF++ ------ END GEEK CODE BLOCK ------ From syd at plug.ca Thu Sep 28 12:41:15 2006 From: syd at plug.ca (Sydney Weidman) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:41:15 -0500 Subject: [Python Wpg] More future topic ideas Message-ID: <1159461675.3233.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Great meeting, great presentation! Thanks, Jason. Just thought I'd send a couple of future topic ideas to the list for mulling: - A Web framework, possibly Django - http://www.djangoproject.com/ - Application development with Zope 3 - GUI Framework like kiwi http://www.async.com.br/projects/kiwi/ - Syd From rick at centrix.ca Thu Sep 28 13:55:54 2006 From: rick at centrix.ca (Richard Fillion) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:55:54 -0500 Subject: [Python Wpg] More future topic ideas In-Reply-To: <1159461675.3233.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1159461675.3233.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <6B907219-2B23-4987-8CA1-CF9D60DBA667@centrix.ca> If there's some interest I could present the cocoa-python bridge that Apple developed. It's quite impressive. Richard Fillion rick at centrix.ca On Sep 28, 2006, at 11:41 AM, Sydney Weidman wrote: > Great meeting, great presentation! Thanks, Jason. > > Just thought I'd send a couple of future topic ideas to the list for > mulling: > > - A Web framework, possibly Django - http://www.djangoproject.com/ > - Application development with Zope 3 > - GUI Framework like kiwi http://www.async.com.br/projects/kiwi/ > > - Syd > > _______________________________________________ > Winnipeg mailing list > Winnipeg at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/winnipeg > From billreid at shaw.ca Thu Sep 28 23:23:10 2006 From: billreid at shaw.ca (Bill Reid) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:23:10 -0500 Subject: [Python Wpg] More future topic ideas In-Reply-To: <1159461675.3233.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1159461675.3233.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <451C919E.9090406@shaw.ca> Sydney Weidman wrote: > Just thought I'd send a couple of future topic ideas to the list for > mulling: > > - A Web framework, possibly Django - http://www.djangoproject.com/ Yes, it is rising in my queue to look at a Web Framework. I was keen on trying Ruby on Rails but there are a few Python alternatives. Django is one. I also heard good things about CherryPy. http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks -- Bill