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Question about symlinks
by Artem 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

Hello. I try to use BackInTime 1.4.1-1 for synchronizing files between two machines. Some synchronized files/folders located in different places (for example on other drive mounted in /media/user/...). Therefore i made symlinks to them and added to BackInTime include list. Also I enabled 'Copy links' in 'Expert options'. Taking snapshot works well, but restoring not quite - program replaces symlinks with restored files. How to tell it to replace real file on which symlink points to? Logfile: https://pastebin.com/uSzpX9Hi

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Review of messages to users about EncFS-deprecation
by c.buhtz＠posteo.jp 26 Jun '24

26 Jun '24

Hello folks, I do need some help to review some simple message to our users. We discussed in the past about removing or replacing EncFs and now have an meta issue about it. <https://github.com/bit-team/backintime/issues/1734> One of the first steps to get this done is to implement some kind of deprecation warnings for the users into the next upcoming release. <https://github.com/bit-team/backintime/issues/1735> That issue contain drafts of three messages for users appearing in three different situations or locations in the GUI. It would be nice if you could review them and give me some feedback. I would like to implement this as soon as possible until the end of July, to get the strings translated and prepare for the next release in the end of July to reach the next Ubuntu release. Thanks in advance, Christian Buhtz

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Transition: Removal of encryption feature until year 2029/30
by c.buhtz＠posteo.jp 04 Jun '24

04 Jun '24

Hello, We decided to deactivate and finally remove EncFS from Back In Time gradually over the next five years in a user-friendly manner. There is a Meta-Issue about the details, reasons and time plan [1]. We warmly invite you to participate in the process by providing feedback and suggestions on how to proceed and highlighting any potential issues we may not have considered. Beside the details one main point of discussion is not finally decided. We appreciate if you would give us feedback and your thoughts about it. In the current state of discussion it is preferred not to replace EncFS with an alternative library (e.g. GoCrypt) but to use encryption on file system level (e.g. LUKS) and improve BIT in a way to easier handle file systems like this. The discussion started in a previous thread here in the mailing list [2]. Beside the Meta-Issue [1] mentioned there are two open issues related to the first step in this process. One is about formulating the deprecation warnings and information for the users [3]. The other is about doing research if we need to and how we can improve BIT to handle encrypted file systems (e.g. LUKS) managed by the operating system [4]. [1] -- <https://github.com/bit-team/backintime/issues/1734> [2] -- <https://mail.python.org/archives/list/bit-dev@python.org/message/D2GXCCVUAV…> [3] -- <https://github.com/bit-team/backintime/issues/1735> [4] -- <https://github.com/bit-team/backintime/issues/1736>

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Announcement: Removal of the "debian" Folder
by c.buhtz＠posteo.jp 04 Jun '24

04 Jun '24

Dear Debian and PPA Package Maintainers, We would like to inform you that the "debian" folder is going to be removed from the upstream repository. This change affects all deb-based packages that you maintain and build. If you have been using the "debian" folder, for example, to offer a PPA, you can continue to use it. However, please adjust your workflows accordingly and ensure that the folder is now managed independently in your own repository. Related PullRequest: <https://github.com/bit-team/backintime/pull/1733> Related Issue: <https://github.com/bit-team/backintime/issues/1548> Best regards, Christian Buhtz

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Where to put images for README.md, FAQ.md, CONTRIBUTING.md and other docs in our Github repo?
by BiT dev 15 May '24

15 May '24

To fix an issue I want to add a screen shot to our FAQ.md. Into which folder shall I put the screen shot file in our Github repo? I would suggest one of these names as new folder under root - assets - images - pics - res(ources) What are your proposals? PS: Moving all *.md into a separate repo would also work (to separate code from docs) but requires more work to do I guess (move files + add and change links)

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Does Back In Time need encryption?
by c.buhtz＠posteo.jp 07 May '24

07 May '24

Hello, this is an X-Post [1]. The background of this discussion is about marking EncFS as deprecated because of security issues and remove it in some years if no contributor jumps in to replace it with something else (e.g. GoCrypt). It's just a thought that came to mind. It's not a concrete suggestion. But of course, I'm interested in your opinion on it. Isn't it one of the key features of BIT, compared to other backup tools, that you can access the backup itself without using your backup tool? The backup is just a bunch of files and folders you can use and investigate with your regular file system tools. But when you use EncFS (or another way of encryption) this features is lost. I have not used EncFS in the wild. I might be wrong. If EncFS really is the reason for losing this feature I ask myself if it wouldn't be "better" for BIT to really remove EncFS and not replace it with something else. It would give BIT a more focused set of features and behavior. Encryption is another job a user should achieve with another tool; e.g. encrypted file system container or an encrypted filesystem (some LUKS magic). I am aware that there are lot of backup tools out there offering encryption. But these tools producing a backup in a format that can be used (and restored) only with the backup tool itself. So this is a another group of users targeted here. Marking EncFS as deprecated and reading the reactions of users about it will give us an idea about how much needed such a feature is. Best, Christian Buhtz [1] -- <https://github.com/bit-team/backintime/issues/1549#issuecomment-2095373077>

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Stopping bit leaves new_snapshot directory
by David Gibbs 12 Apr '24

12 Apr '24

Guys: Today I was running a manual backup and realized i wanted to change a setting ... so I killed the running backup using the GUI, made the change, and kicked it off again. After a while, I started getting a flood of notifications from notify-send like this: [E] Error: rsync: [generator] link "/media/davidg/backupdrive/backintime/L127014/davidg/1/new_snapshot/backup/home/davidg/applications/Postman/app/resources/app/node_modules/neo-async/forEachOf.js" => ../../20240411-120001-713/backup/home/davidg/applications/Postman/app/resources/app/node_modules/neo-async/forEachOf.js failed: File exists (17) I looked at the backup drive and saw the new_snapshot directory from the previous backup still existed. I removed the directory, restarted the backup, and it worked fine. I looked through the code to see if we trapped the termination signal but couldn't find anything. Perhaps we should be trapping that signal and deleting the new_snapshot directory if the backup is terminated? David

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Re: mod Fw: Snapshot directory duplicated, permission denied
by Mark Johnno 23 Mar '24

23 Mar '24

Hello Christian and all, Thank you for the questions. > Might it be that you used an older BIT than 1.2.1 before? Or another Ubuntu version? I don't remember what was the version of BiT on my system before I upgraded. I was on Trisquel Nabia, based on Ubuntu 20.04; now I am on Trisquel Aramo, based on Ubuntu 22.04. > Or you used that SSD on another machine, too? No. I use this SSD to back up one BiT profile (from one machine only). > Compare the permissions, user- and group names you via "ls -ld" $ ls -ld /media/redacted_username/time-machine drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Feb 26 20:42 /media/redacted_username/time-machine $ ls -ld /media/redacted_username/time-machine1/ drwxrwxrwx 5 redacted_username redacted_username 4096 Sep 3 2023 /media/redacted_username/time-machine1/ Any clue on why a duplicate was created? What are the recommended permissions for /time-machine Mark. On Thursday, March 7th, 2024 at 3:59 PM, c.*****(a)posteo.jp <c.****teo.jp> wrote: > Dear Johnno, > > bit-dev admin here. > > Thanks for your message. I checked on my site and can confirm that you > are a member of the mailing list. > > But there is no held message from you because you didn't sent to the > list itself ("bit-dev(a)python.org") but to "bit-dev-join(a)python.org". The > latter is only for subscribing and other commands. > Send again to "bit-dev(a)python.org" please and it should work. > > Regarding to your original message. Your version of BIT (1.2.1) is quit > outdated and very old. It is the same with Ubuntu 20. Be aware that > Canonical use the term "LTS" for marketing reasons. Ubuntu LTS is not > that LTS and stable as you might think. If you need something stable you > could stick to "Debian stable". > > Might it be that you used an older BIT than 1.2.1 before? Or another > Ubuntu version? > > Or you used that SSD on another machine, too? > > Compare the permissions, user- and group names you via "ls -ld" > > $ ls -ld /media/redactedusername/time-machine1 > $ ls -ld /media/redactedusername/time-machine > > I am not aware of a change that could cause that behavior. But I am not > into all details of BIT. > > I suggest to make a manual backup of that folders. And then modify the > folder permissions. > > Thanks Christian > > Am 07.03.2024 13:56 schrieb Mark Johnno: > > > Hello BiT contributor, > > > > I sent a message a week ago which I think was not approved (yet) - see > > below. > > > > Is there something wrong with the message? > > > > Thanks for reading my mail. > > Mark. > > > > > ------- Forwarded Message ------- > > > From: Mark Johnno lua8ds(a)proton.me > > > > > > Date: On Wednesday, February 28th, 2024 at 6:39 PM > > > Subject: Snapshot directory duplicated, permission denied > > > To: bit-dev-join(a)python.org bit-dev-join(a)python.org > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > The directory where snapshots live was duplicated - coincidentally that is the first time I plug my external SSD (where snapshots live) to my computer after an upgrade from Trisquel Nabia 10.0 (based on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)) to Aramo 11.0 (Jammy Jellyfish). > > > > > > > > This is the usual path to BiT on the external SSD: > > > > /media/redactedusername/time-machine/backintime/ > > > > > > > > This is the duplicated path: > > > > /media/redactedusername/time-machine1/backintime/ > > > > > > > > $ backintime backup > > > > > > > > Back In Time > > > > Version: 1.2.1 > > > > > > > > Back In Time comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. > > > > This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it > > > > under certain conditions; type `backintime --license' for details. > > > > > > > > INFO: Lock > > > > INFO: Take a new snapshot. Profile: 1 Main profile > > > > ERROR: /media/redactedusername/time-machine/backintime/x220/redactedusername/1 does not exist > > > > notify-send -t 30000 Back In Time () : Main profile Can't find snapshots folder. If it is on a removable drive please plug it. Waiting 30 seconds. > > > > ERROR: /media/redactedusername/time-machine/backintime/x220/redactedusername/1 does not exist > > > > [...] > > > > WARNING: Can't find snapshots folder! > > > > INFO: Unlock > > > > > > > > I can list all the snapshots of the duplicated directory: > > > > $ ls /media/redactedusername/time-machine1/backintime/x220/redactedusername/1/ > > > > Display all 586 possibilities? > > > > > > > > I do not have permission to list: > > > > $ ls /media/redactedusername/time-machine/ > > > > ls: cannot open directory '/media/redactedusername/time-machine/': Permission denied > > > > > > > > Has something changed with the version of BiT distributed with Jammy Jellyfish from the one available with Focal Fossa? I am wondering whether I should update the permission of /media/redactedusername/time-machine/ but I am also wondering why a duplicate /media/redactedusername/time-machine1/ was created. This duplicate confuses me - I am not sure what to do. > > > > > > > > Any help would be welcomed. > > > > > > > > Joh.

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Impact of not having "dbus.mainloop.pyqt6"
by c.buhtz＠posteo.jp 11 Mar '24

11 Mar '24

Hi, what is the impact for BIT if "dbus.mainloop.pyqt6" is not available? It is imported in "qt/serviceHelper.py". It seems that BIT still starts. Is the service helper related to systray notifications? Kind Christian

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pyqt6 on ubuntu?
by David Gibbs 10 Mar '24

10 Mar '24

Folks: I just tried to build & install bit on my kde neon (ubuntu jammy) machine using deb's, but it couldn't find the python3-pyqt6 package. Any suggestions on how to install the package so apt won't complain? Thanks! David

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