Re: [Distutils] Improving Communication
My first impression of Zulip was "this feels like Slack". It is visually busier than Discourse, and I had a harder time understanding context. I had to step up the font twice to read it. I couldn't find how to hide the user list. I felt lost. Based on my first impressions, I probably wouldn't engage via Zulip. I had a negative first impression with Discourse, too, as "yet another forum software", but it grew on me. Dozens of UX details were done just right, like "I wonder how I can do this thing... oh, there it is!". Or it could have been the Plone community is engaging, or a wealth of information already existed by the time I joined. --steve On 4/22/18 at 1:19 PM, web@stevepiercy.com (Steve Piercy - Website Builder) pronounced:
I am an email and IRC recidivist. I have to admit that ever since I joined the Plone community forum which uses Discourse, I have been more engaged with that community than I would have otherwise. I can choose which topics interest me, forget the rest, and explore things that might interest me at some point in the future. It also has a wealth of information easily searchable and accessible.
I noticed that my wireless carrier uses Discourse as well, and I've found it exceptionally helpful to solve my phone problems quickly, compared to the phone manufacturer's craptastic help experience.
I haven't tried Zulip yet, but I just signed up to compare it to Discourse.
I don't know what challenges might be for self-hosting. Perhaps those who have experience with self-hosting either Discourse or Zulip could share?
--steve
On 4/21/18 at 11:51 PM, brett@python.org (Brett Cannon) pronounced:
I know this is no shock to Donald, but I agree with what he brings up below. One of motivators for trying out python.zulipchat.com is to see if it's real-time nature on top of topic-based discussion could act as a cross-section for email and IRC.
For me, either something like Zulip or Discourse takes care of a lot of the issues raised. They provide modern tooling, allow for a central place to communicate, and allow for sectioning things into streams/sections to prevent overwhelming e.g. a single mailing list.
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On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 4:06 PM Steve Piercy - Website Builder < web@stevepiercy.com> wrote:
My first impression of Zulip was "this feels like Slack". It is visually busier than Discourse, and I had a harder time understanding context. I had to step up the font twice to read it. I couldn't find how to hide the user list. I felt lost. Based on my first impressions, I probably wouldn't engage via Zulip.
I had a negative first impression with Discourse, too, as "yet another forum software", but it grew on me. Dozens of UX details were done just right, like "I wonder how I can do this thing... oh, there it is!". Or it could have been the Plone community is engaging, or a wealth of information already existed by the time I joined.
If you weren't aware, Discourse was designed by some of the same minds behind stack exchange. Just like they looked at QA and realized it was broken and created Stack Overflow, they turned their sights on forum software. I'm sure the Plone community is fantastic, but having fantastic software helps, too :) -W
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