Speaking of "math through programming", just wanted to share some of my latest results from exploring Python + LiveGraphics3D and Python + Povray. LiveGraphics3D is a Java applet by Martin Kraus, free for non- commercial purposes, that takes Mathematica graphics files (.m extension) and presents them in a web-interactive context, complete with mouse-controlled zoom, rotate, and a stereo viewing option (you have to cross or splay your eyes to see the stereo -- a learned skill). I've taught my polyhedra to display themselves in .m format, via a lg3d.py module, so now I can provide browsers with interactive views such as found at: http://www.inetarena.com/~pdx4d/ocn/lvmviews.html For a long time, I've been using the Python + Povray synergy to generate colorful polyhedra, mostly in wireframe. But one should remember that Povray is a sophisticated rendering engine with a lot more to it. With a little spit and polish ("search and replace" in the Povray editor), simple cartoony renderings may be transformed into more expensive-looking sculptures, as here: http://www.inetarena.com/~pdx4d/ocn/concavedodeca.html This gets us into the realm of "math + art" -- always a fertile realm (good book: 'Connections: The Geometric Bridge Between Art and Science' by Jay Kappraff -- which is just coming out in a 2nd edition this month, April 2001). Kirby