Barry,
On Sat, Dec 19, 1998 at 12:21:34AM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
"PG" == Peter Gervai grin@tolna.net writes:
PG> This reminds me to the feeling when I first met mailman, when PG> I thought: uhh, this program cannot log anything. I don't see PG> what happens. There is some logfiles, but apart from the error PG> log (which doesn't help always so well :)) there is no useful PG> logfile. Is there a log for all processed messages for PG> example? Especially the subscribe and confirmation messages? PG> The bounces mailman processes, and other non-fatal errors?Lots of stuff should be getting logged, but I can't remember what's in 1.0b6 (Ken?). You should see every post getting logged, subscribes/unsubscribes, digests, and of course errors.
No, definitely I completely miss the logfile showing the posts. Subscribes/unsubs get logged as well as errors, though error log a bit hard to use because it doesn't show the variables failed.
The error logging ought to be very helpful if you're trying to track down a Mailman bug (but there are none any of *those* right?! :-).
Hehe, don't tell me, I'm that guy with the exim and the questions about permissions nobody was able to answer, as well as error messages being unfamiliar to anyone. :-)
PG> Maybe there is a possibility to have debug log but I didn't PG> find it. It was especially sad when I put a larger list to PG> mailman and found out that LOTS of mail did not get delivered, PG> and there were NO sign anywhere in the logs that 1) delivery PG> did not happen 2) why it did not happen.You don't say what version of Mailman you're using. There are a
Sorry, trying to be at the lastest released, this time 1.0b6.
I realized that I had a new logfile, namely smtp-failures. :-) It shows at least the error message caused the delivery to fail. Nice.
PG> The other question is the reason why it didnt: it was because PG> mailman wanted to send a mail with a very long CC list, and PG> because security reasons the CC's were maxed at 15, so PG> delivery failed with 5xx error somewhere in the middle and PG> mail got silently lost. Is there any settings to set how many PG> CC's mailman will use at most? At least it should later be PG> documented somewhere that mailman requires such limitations PG> lifted.Look in the Privacy Options. There's an option that says "Ceiling on acceptable number of recipients for a posting". This defaults to 10.
It's been 10 by default. Doesn't seem to matter at all.
BTW, if this is really why the messages are not being delivered, they probably aren't just lost. They get held for administrative approval for a period of time. Check the pending messages for the list.
Of course I regularly check the waiting messages as I'm the owner as well but there were none waiting, obviosuly. The message got delivered to the small batch (outside users, 3 cc) and lost for the big one (local users, 20-50 cc)...
thank you, grin