Gabor FUNK wrote:

Just subscribed. I take this broken recently or noone read or cared to report that this list's welcome mail have some "problems".

Header says, it is: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" [so it is not my mailer broken]

but body contains "<"-s instead of "<"-s. ">"-s seems to be ok.

Thank you for your report. This was an artifact of an old HTML sanitizing method used to protect the web interface from XSS attacks.

I have corrected that portion of the welcome message and also updated some other old information. The new list specific portion of the welcome is now as follows:

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