On 11/12/15 5:06 AM, Henrik Rasmussen wrote:
What does the vette log say about the messages that don't appear in a digest until the following week? Do they show as approved at the same time as the others that are in the first digest or not until later. I am still trying to figure that out, as I still need to know exactly when the list admin has approved messages. The vette log shows a lot of Refused posting labeled with the list name, but all the held message approved messages does not contain information on which list the message was approved, so I can't use the vette log to determine when messages on the list was approved.
Yes, that is a bug, <https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1295875>, fixed in MM 2.1.18.
But I wonder why the smtp log contains so many entries postings to exactly 1209 recipients on the list, even the list has 1222 normal members and 6493 digest members. Why only 6 times 1209. And are the 1209 digest members while the 6 recips could be regular members or something?
/var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 44 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME@LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 1 recips, completed in 0.098 seconds /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 45 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME@LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 6 recips, completed in 0.200 seconds /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 45 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME@LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 6 recips, completed in 0.200 seconds /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 45 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME@LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 6 recips, completed in 0.200 seconds /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 45 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME@LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 6 recips, completed in 0.200 seconds /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 45 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME@LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 6 recips, completed in 0.200 seconds /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 09 06 45 2015 (16804) <mailman.577.1447056402.16802.LISTNAME@LISTSERVER.dk> smtp to LISTNAME for 6 recips, completed in 0.200 seconds
The above are a Mailman notice. It is unclear to me exactly what is happening here? The first log message is the message to LISTNAME-owner and the next is the resending of that message to the 6 owner/moderator addresses. The next 5 appear to be duplicates because the 0.200 seconds are identical and even if there were 6 separate sends, that totals 1.2 seconds, yet the timestamp never advanced even 1 second.
/var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) <6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530@pobox.engr.local> smtp to LISTNAME for 1209 recips, completed in 110.189 seconds /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) <6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530@pobox.engr.local> smtp to LISTNAME for 1209 recips, completed in 110.189 seconds /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) <6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530@pobox.engr.local> smtp to LISTNAME for 1209 recips, completed in 110.189 seconds /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) <6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530@pobox.engr.local> smtp to LISTNAME for 1209 recips, completed in 110.189 seconds /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) <6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530@pobox.engr.local> smtp to LISTNAME for 1209 recips, completed in 110.189 seconds /var/log/mailman/smtp Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) <6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530@pobox.engr.local> smtp to LISTNAME for 1209 recips, completed in 110.189 seconds
Here again this appears to be 6 duplicate copies of one message. It could be 6 approved posts each delivered to 1209 eligible non-digest members upon approval (the other 13 non-digest members could be delivery disabled or direct addressees with 'no dups' or a combination), but it is not 6 posts because the log messages are all for the same Message-ID and all from the same (pid = 16804) OutgoingRunner and delivery takes over 110 seconds, but the timestamp doesn't advance. Also, 6 separate sends to 1209 recips would be very unlikely to be completed in the exact same time of 110.189 seconds.
/var/log/mailman/post Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) post to LISTNAME from someone@example.com, size=5675, message-id=<6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530@pobox.engr.local>, success
And the post log shows only one post.
Where can I see which messages was contained in which digests and when? My problem is that I don't seem to be able to tell whether the list admin is right or not. Not that I doubt his statement, but I really like to be able to tell when what happens.
The send of the digests would be logged as above in the smtp log at 'Nov 09 12 xx xx'. To see which messages it contained, you'd have to see the digest itself. That info isn't logged.
You could subscribe yourself to the MIME digest. Then you'd see the messages in it and their Message-IDs. The Message-IDs should be in the vette log. Also, for the smtp log entry above like
Nov 09 13 28 33 2015 (16804) <6f7a7eb8e5e442668ea1a864e84c2530@pobox.engr.local> smtp to LISTNAME for 1209 recips, completed in 110.189 seconds
there should be a vette log entry with the same Message-ID and a timestamp about 110-115 seconds earlier.
The six apparent duplications of certain smtp log entries is very puzzling. I don't know what would cause that.
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