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On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 11:06 -0500, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 16:59 +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote:
Am Mo., 25. Nov. 2019 um 16:47 Uhr schrieb Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users <mailman-users@python.org>:
On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 10:17 -0500, Matthew Pounsett wrote:
Is there a timeline for that? Mailman 2.x requires python 2.x, which is EOL in about 40 days.
I keep saying this a lot... the EOL you are referring to is Python's declared date that the Python team will no longer maintain Python2. HOWEVER, Redhat, Debian, etc., *will* still be maintaining Python2 throughout the lifecycles of their releases that contain Python2. So, for Debian 10 (Buster) that is well past 2022 (which is the LTS end-data for Debian 9).
Python2 is being removed from Debian's next release, Bullseye, though. This already has caused turmoil for the Calibre package and I suppose that they will have to remove mailman 2 also so that it is not going to be in the bullseye release.
Correct, so LTS End-date for Buster (which will be sometime in 2024?) will be the last of Python2 for Debian.
If you are migrating to Bullseye, then it makes sense to plan for an application (e.g. Mailman) migration too. BUT if you are not using bleeding edge OSes, you don't need to heed the Python fear mongering.
Since I'm working on PPAs some today, an additional bullet-point to the above is that Ubuntu Bionic (which includes Python 2.7) has an EOL of April 2028.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
Sure, it would be great if everyone migrated to MM3 (and MM3 fit inside the requirements of everyone using it..) ASAP, but just like with the Linux Kernel there is no magic solution to have everyone on Kernel 5.x this week... so guess what, kernel 3x still gets security patches from distributors.
- -Jim P.
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